Novels question, Making an order |
Novels question, Making an order |
Jul 13 2004, 04:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 17-November 03 From: Texas Member No.: 5,828 |
I know this comes up every now and then, and for whatever reason I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Is there an order to Shadowrun Novels? I found Changeling, Find Your Own Truth, and Fade to Black at a used bookstore, and read them (in that order).
Today I received: Headhunters Beyond the Pale Clockwork Asylum Shadowplay Shadowboxer 2XS Just Compensation Blood Sport Night's Pawn Who Hunts the Hunter Lone Wolf Never Trust an Elf Stranger Souls Worlds Without End Technobabel Is there an order here that I'm missing? Or just one that anyone would suggest? There's 15 books, so I could order them randomly and roll 6d3 ....... No, really. What do you guys think? |
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Jul 13 2004, 06:09 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 58 Joined: 30-April 02 From: Taiwan, Kaohsiung UB chapter Member No.: 2,665 |
I know the Nigel Findley novels have only two books to read in order, and that's '2XS' first, and then 'House of the Sun'.
Because I think Nigel Findley is the god of shadowrun, and should the afterlife exist, is one person I WOULD like to meet, I read them in the order he wrote them in. That order would be: Lone Wolf, 2XS, Shadowplay, House of the Sun. (Although, technically 2XS and House of the Sun follow the same story) The Dragonheart saga goes through: Stranger Souls, Clockwork Asylum and Beyond the Pale. The Secrets of Power Trillogy goes: 'Never Deal with a Dragon', 'Choose your enemies carefully' and 'Find your own truth' As far as a grand overarching order for all of the novels, I don't believe there is one. The only order you might want to try is reading them in the order they were published, roughly. That way you shouldn't end up reading say...'Burning Bright (Bug City)' after ''Technobabel (Renraku Arc)" |
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Jul 13 2004, 07:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 1-July 02 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,921 |
The page listing Shadowrun products has all the novels listed. From a cursory glance, the numerical order of the product numbers seems like it doesn't deviate much from the order in which they're meant to be read. |
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Jul 13 2004, 10:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
If you like the bugs, make sure you get a copy of Burning Bright.
Don |
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Jul 13 2004, 01:23 PM
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Not Cameron Diaz Group: Retired Admins Posts: 472 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Newark, Delaware Member No.: 188 |
I'd read them in roughly (exactly for the Dragon Heart trilogy, however) this order:
1. Never Trust an Elf 2. Night's Pawn 3. Just Compensation 4. 2XS 5. Who Hunts the Hunter 6. Lone Wolf 7. Shadowplay 8. Blood Sport 9. Headhunters 10. Shadowboxer 11. Worlds Without End 12. Technobabel 13. Stranger Souls 14. Clockwork Asylum 15. Beyond the Pale |
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Jul 13 2004, 01:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Just Compensation comes after 2XS. The Brotherhood is still around. Just Compensation is part of the fallout from Chicago, Pistons.
Man, your order's really wrong here. Technobabel is after Dunkelzahn's death. Don |
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Jul 13 2004, 01:32 PM
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Not Cameron Diaz Group: Retired Admins Posts: 472 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Newark, Delaware Member No.: 188 |
I see you missed the word "roughly." If you want to get really picky, two of the Dragonheart trilogy happen after Dunk's death as well. Most folks I know don't like to break up their reading of a trilogy, so putting Technobabel before it isn't out of line. Neither would it be putting it completely after.
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Jul 13 2004, 01:35 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
All the references in my site list the novels in the order they came out (excpet for Into the Shadows, which is really a double entry that I just decided should be retroactively locked into slot #7 like the re-print suggests).
Or, hey! You could follow the handy link someone else already provided above! |
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Jul 13 2004, 01:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Hey man, I meant no offense. Having never read the Dragonheart trilogy, I was unsure of its placement and thought Technobabel in its entirety comes afterward and didn't run concurrently. Wired Reflexes has a list. Scroll down and you'll see them numbered according to their printing. Some of the novels are, however, concurrent or simply retro (novel 8 before novel 7 as an example). Don |
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Jul 13 2004, 02:44 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The latter is forgivable, the former...erk! And that's not a list, that's Mason's novel reviews and synopsis. I don't always agree with Mason as to the particular actraction of a book, but the depth he's gone into is stunning. |
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Jul 13 2004, 03:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
Scroll downwards, AH. He's got them listed according to when they came out. His reviews (the ones that are there anyway) touch on if the books are concurrent or retro as I mentioned.
I agree partially, but I liked Burning Bright the best and really did not like anything by Nyx Smith. BTW, don't you have a book to review? Don |
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Jul 13 2004, 04:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 24-February 03 From: The Containment Zone Member No.: 4,151 |
Burning Bright.
Best Tie-in Fiction Ever. It's one of the few books I go back and reread every year or so. That said, Nigel Findley's books are all really good, and Night's Pawn is good, although the style is a little different from what you may be used to (its style is closer to Neuromancer than the straightforward stuff you usually see in the RPG Tie-in market). None of the other Shadowrun novels strike me as being particularly memorable, although they aren't particularly horrible either. |
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Jul 13 2004, 09:11 PM
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I've always thought the order of the Findley novels was 2XS, Lone Wolf, then House of the Sun. I think Shadowplay take place between 2XS and Lone Wolf. I always thought 2XS was the first, since it was, to the best of my knowledge, the first novel Findley wrote. Towards the end of Lone Wolf, Argent makes reference to Sly and Dirk, which is why i think Shadowplay took place between 2XS and Lone Wolf. Then, at the beginning of House of the Sun, Dirk calls Argent and gets Wolf. Then again, its been the better part of a decade since i've read them. I could be mistaken. |
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Jul 13 2004, 10:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 10-April 04 From: Chicago, IL...Ich vermisse Deutschland. Member No.: 6,230 |
You are correct. The cycle would be 2XS, Shadowplay, Lone Wolf, House of the Sun. Remember, SLY is hiring Dirk in Cheyenne.
Don |
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