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post Jul 17 2004, 08:25 PM
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A lot of things in Shadowrun have been hit by an insane inflation rate. Computers and Ammunition are just two of them. Others haven't changed much at all. Why? The gods only know. But considering that 100 nuyen is pocket change in the standard Shadowrun game, buying 50 rounds of regular ammo for that much isn't this monumental blow to reality that a few of you are trying to suggest it is.
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post Jul 17 2004, 09:00 PM
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I completely agree that it is not a monumental blow to reality. I'd even agree that when you've got to use just one price for all ammunition it makes sense to use a rather high price. However, the main reason why several items in SR have rather weird prices is that the designers didn't know and didn't really care either. Using inflation, or even general trends in consumer price changes, to explain it is just plain wrong -- like explaining telepathy with the electromagnetic fields caused by the human nervous system.
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post Jul 17 2004, 10:00 PM
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I'd even agree that when you've got to use just one price for all ammunition it makes sense to use a rather high price. However, the main reason why several items in SR have rather weird prices is that the designers didn't know and didn't really care either. Using inflation, or even general trends in consumer price changes, to explain it is just plain wrong -- like explaining telepathy with the electromagnetic fields caused by the human nervous system.

People listen to the apologists because they want to believe, because they got all these books and they don't want to believe the stuff in them is completely wrong. in religion and in RPGs. If i was playing a game with telepathy you bet i'd mention the possibility of the shuman resonance as a medium for telepathy. come on this is a post-modern cyberpunk RPG, it's all about appropriation without regarding original intention (look at all the people FASA stole from, Gibson had no idea people would use his ideas like this).
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post Jul 18 2004, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (Siege @ Jul 17 2004, 05:11 PM)
How much do you pay per box at the range?

At Wal-Mart or Gallyan's (fancy sporting goods store) a box of 50 .45 rounds costs me $10-$12.

-Siege

Wow, at wal-mart a box of 100 Winchester .40S&W costs me only 14.95.

EDIT: Also...

I rule you can buy ammo for about 1/4 the price just for range shooting. plinkers are much chepaer than a shigh quality hollowpooint or match grade rounds, but they are less accurate to some degree and have far worse balistic profiles for shooting at things that scream and bleed.

For good quality ammo today you can easily get up to 2 bucks a round for high quality match grade ammo.

That being said I like expensive ammo in SR. Money sinks are nifty. I like players thinking "2 Bucks" every time they shoot at a baddie and miss. :D

Now you've got me wondering.

Time to go shopping at Wal-Mart.

-Siege
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post Jul 18 2004, 02:10 AM
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Yeah, Wall Mart provides me all my plinking ammo needs. :D
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post Jul 18 2004, 05:52 AM
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There will be tremendous inflation between 2004 and 2064. At a 7% annual inflation rate (for example), prices double roughly every 10 years (financial rule of 72). If prices double every 10 years for 60 years, things will cost roughly 60 to 70 times as much in 2064 as in 2004.

Therefore a cheap meal at $10 today will go for 10 :nuyen: in 2064. A cheap motel room at $30 today will go for 30 :nuyen: in 2064. A $40 car rental will go for 40 :nuyen: in 2064. A cheap apartment at $1000 per month today will be a cheap apartment at 1000 :nuyen: per month in 2064.

That's how inflation works in Shadowrun.
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