 Whatever happened..., To Tommy Talon from Kenson's Novels? |
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 Aug 27 2004, 03:30 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 661 Joined: 23-March 03 Member No.: 4,322  |
So I recently reread The Dragonheart Trilogy, Cross Roads, Ragnarock, and I am currently in the middle of rereading the Burning time. I don't recall any of the Characters, Talon, Aracos, Trouble, Boom, or Hammar ever getting mentioned again, is there any indication of their further adventures?
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Aug 27 2004, 03:39 AM
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Technomancer Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,638 Joined: 2-October 02 From: Champaign, IL Member No.: 3,374 |
Talon posts frequently to Shadowland in books like SONA and DotSW so I assume that he's still alive and kicking. Could be another Talon, I guess, but it's more fun to think it's the "famous" one.
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Aug 27 2004, 02:31 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
In my world, they he died in a horribly stupid bike crash because he suddenly realized his ally spirit couldn't turn into a motorcycle.
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Aug 27 2004, 03:00 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
There is no canon reason why it could not. ~J |
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Aug 27 2004, 03:00 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Which is why I said my world :)
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Aug 27 2004, 03:07 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
There was supposed to be yet another novel, as I recall, but the novel line got killed.
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Aug 27 2004, 03:16 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,317 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
IIRC that last novel was supposed to be from Mike Mulvihill
... as for the motocycle spirit ... shape: no problem ... Usage as motocycle: without very /very) high quick and / or movement power not really |
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Aug 27 2004, 03:52 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Yea, that's true Cochise. It's an original idea however, but just a little too much of a stretch for me :)
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Aug 27 2004, 11:36 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
Ally Spirit:
Force: 3 = 15 Karma B: 3 = 0 Karma Q: 11 = 52 Karma (allowing x5 multiplier for the wheels; roughly 55km/h. Stay off the highways) S: 8 = 25 Karma (to be able to carry Talon without much negative effect) Athletics: 6 = 6 Karma (for 'running' and such, to increase speed) 3 Forms: 2 Karma TOTAL: 100 Karma Personally, I'd make Talon's spirit a bit unique and give it movement power (or maybe a sustainable spell working in a similar way), and reduce quickness to 8 or so. |
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Aug 28 2004, 12:37 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
Talon's still around, and the Talon in the Shadowtalk is indeed that Talon. It's Kenson's personal character from his home games (And I believe several of the others from the novel were likewise from his home game).
Probably won;t see much from Talon outside of Shadowtalk these days though, as Kenson is now the Line Developer for his Mutants & Masterminds game at Green Ronin. Bull |
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Aug 28 2004, 12:41 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
That or you could just off him like you did Morgan. :]
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Aug 28 2004, 01:52 AM
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Would that be a problem in Boston? |
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Aug 28 2004, 10:10 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
Hush you! :) Besides, it's bad form to just off another freelancer's character without asking him first... Personally, I like Talon. Harlequin, on the other hand... or Ehran... Or Capt Chaos... or Dodger... Or Smiling Bandit... Well, the list goes on :) Bull |
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Aug 28 2004, 12:06 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,317 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
And that's the problem: Where does this movement rate come from? Ally spirits gain no benefits from their physical form (no reach for example), so why would he have a higher movement rate simply because he has the shape of a motocycle? But honestly, for the sake of the story I more than willing to have Aracos move like a motocycle in a novel ... It's just that I say "No" to a player who want's to do something similar ... |
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Aug 28 2004, 12:31 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
True, it does state that allies keep their physical attributes regardless of form. But nowhere does it say they don't get benefits from their physical form (for instance, ten arms would let it hold ten objects). I don't think it states anywhere that they don't get Reach either (I don't think reach counts an attribute, or?) Also, it doesn't state anywhere what the ally spirits movement multiplier is - regardless of form. Now, you can assume that it has x3 simply because it's the default for humans and some spirits, but as far as I know it hasn't been stated anywhere. |
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Aug 28 2004, 01:39 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Maybe we will get some clarifications some day. Until then, I'm off to make an ally spirit who can form a tank, a jet, and a submarine. I will call him.....Transformoron.
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Aug 28 2004, 01:45 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Six different forms... Six Shot or Quick Switch?
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Aug 28 2004, 11:18 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 75 Joined: 4-May 02 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 2,684 |
I have a player who read these books and wants to do the same thing with his ally.
Personally I don't really have a huge problem with it, I basically told him that it'd be ver expensive though. Basically I told him he'd have to build a Westwind 2000 as a Power focus of a level equal to the spirit of the ally who would inhabit it. Not great rules-wise, but as long as he's willing to pay for something that just breaks down into a style thing I don't think it's that big of a deal. |
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Aug 28 2004, 11:56 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Man, the TN to enchat that would be through the roof.
I'd just as soon as make it a special ally power and charge 50 karma for it. If I ever would allow it. |
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 Aug 29 2004, 01:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
Jealousy Bull, ill becomes you. ;) |
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