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Aug 29 2004, 06:14 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
Read the question. Zeel specifically stated his question wasn't about commanded power, but about the most physically powerful. Besides, Ares is only the seventh biggest megacorp.
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Aug 29 2004, 07:23 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,941 |
Teachdaire from the Prime Runners sourcebook. Very, very, very dangerous indeed.
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Aug 29 2004, 08:38 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
Somewhere, someone (I believe Tom Dowd) posted stats for Dunkelzahn. When combined with the Great Dragon abilites from Do6W, that'd make him very nasty.
However, Harlequin is probably the nastiest, since his stats are: "Whatever the GM wants them to be". |
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Aug 29 2004, 09:46 PM
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King of the Hobos ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
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Aug 29 2004, 09:59 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Most powerful?
Tim. Definitely Tim. ~J |
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Aug 30 2004, 12:07 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 12-August 04 Member No.: 6,559 |
Well, Smiling Bandit is the only one who can change the time and date stamps on his matrix posts, which is actually quite a bit more impressive than it sounds. Then again, FastJack might also be able to and simply chooses not to, or perhaps is capable of doing so and simply doesn't know the exact technique. |
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Aug 30 2004, 12:10 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I'd guess can but chooses not to.
And I'm pretty sure there are others who have changed their time/datestamps. A good chunk of the Otaku in RA:S, IIRC, though I may be wrong. ~J |
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Aug 30 2004, 12:37 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
About a dozen different people managed the time/date stamp trick before they got rid of them. He was, however, the first. Besides, it's never said Fastjack can't do it...he just may not bother.
It's made pretty clear though that Fastjack is a decker through and through, while Bandit is both a decker and a biologist, thus splitting his time and most likely making him less effective as Jack. The Abstruse One |
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Aug 30 2004, 12:50 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
I never played the card game, but would stats from that count? I'm guessing there were probably some pretty uber-statted characters there.
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Aug 30 2004, 12:52 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Skwaaark plus dual handrazors!
~J |
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Aug 30 2004, 03:49 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 45 Joined: 25-October 02 Member No.: 3,498 |
Harlequin
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Aug 30 2004, 03:53 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
He's Immortal... come on, do you think anyone will as a question as simple as this without some restrictions? |
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Aug 30 2004, 04:09 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I swear I'm the only one to put some thought in this.
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Aug 30 2004, 05:53 AM
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There's probably a reason for that.
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Aug 30 2004, 05:59 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Ohio Member No.: 6,564 |
Did Argent ever appear in any of the books? He's pretty bad in the novels.
And yes, I have been out of the loop for a while, thanks. I think I have about three 3rd Ed. books, everything else is 2nd or even first edition. |
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Aug 30 2004, 09:02 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i've got most of the published runs, but i've never sat down and read most of them. i did read SotF, and it had what may possibly the least threatening NPCs ever presented as serious opposition. the group of critters who were supposed to hunt the PCs? most starting-level groups i've seen could take them without even really paying attention.
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Aug 30 2004, 10:04 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Excuse me? A drake and a wereform plus others for good measure? Most starting groups of equal size that I know wouldn't even be a close match at all...
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Aug 30 2004, 10:10 AM
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panda! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
some people are minmaxing play-to-win SOBs sadly...
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Aug 30 2004, 10:19 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Only if you are not using the Canon character creation rules. I run SotF twice, once with a fresh but fully min-maxed team, another time with a more experienced and just as min-maxed team. The first team barely made it out using a clever turn of phase, the other team was pretty badly hurt(3 with serious wounds). |
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Aug 30 2004, 11:46 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
I would of thought that the Cyber Tactian i think it is from the same book was better. He got given the totally unstated Tac Comp 4 and did he not have like a Threat rating of 9 or something, which if i remember the rules right allows him to add 9 dice to almost all his dice rolls??
I know in RAS he tell the Deus aligned Otaku attacking shadlowland that he is in his 6th decade before he boots them offline. If i recall i think it's only Megera that force's jack offline in that fight. |
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Aug 30 2004, 12:13 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,451 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 4,488 |
Argent's good, but he's not necessarily the best. I'd love to say Dirk, but that's just way off...Mercury shouldn't count being a drake-twink...I still stand by Fastjack in an all-round contest, but if we're not allowing deckers/riggers...hmm...Burnout before Lethe popped in?
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Aug 30 2004, 04:52 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 24-February 03 From: The Containment Zone Member No.: 4,151 |
Fastjack's approximate age is in Target: Matrix, if I remember right, and it's roughly 70 at the time the post was supposed to be made (2062?).
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Aug 30 2004, 05:11 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
I'm'a have to go with Teachdaire. That guy is mad twink. And the "OMG yuo = forget me kthxbye!" focus is nice too.
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Aug 30 2004, 05:46 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Remember he wants THINGS THERE ARE STATS FOR IN BOOKS!!!
Were there posted stats for Burnout? |
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Aug 30 2004, 05:56 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 |
Hello all.
Thanks for all the replies so far, much appreciated and pretty interesting in places. As other people have already pointed out, I did specifically mention NO immortals, dragons etc, and in fact banned Damien Knight by name! Yet they still get mentioned. :) Anyway that's cool, far be it from me to dissuade people from discussing these other guys if they want to. It's derailing the thread a bit, but I guess there's a first time for everything... Heh, some of the people mentioned bring back old memories. Is Blackwing a pistols (or at least, Firearms) specialist, possibly an elf? Perhaps an adept too, I can't quite recall. Anyway I think that's the guy, and if so I believe he was shot by a runner while coming out of the shower in one of our previous campaigns. Oops! Teachdaire is definitely quite high up there, I concur with that suggestion! Are there stats for Ryan Mercury anywhere? I'm not aware of any, but if there are I'd be interested in seeing them. I'm not keen on the guy, but considering all the hype it'd be cool to have a look I guess. He is a drake, but I suppose I can allow those in. In which case vampires and so on would be a go too. I can think of a certain English gentleman who's a bit dangerous in that line, as well as quite a character! FrostyNSO: Who's Torgo? The name doesn't sound familiar. AH: Yeah, I would have to say you've put more thought into it than most people, which I appreciate. You even managed to read the question and answer appropriately. A marvel! ;) Is the cyberzombie archetype from Cybertech called Livewire or Burnout or something? I think I remember a picture of him balancing on a beam or similar, arms outstretched. Anyway if that's the guy then, again, a total badass. All deltagrade implants and plenty of power. A bit of a rarity for SR NPCs sadly! Anyway, I'd say I do broadly agree with all your suggestions. I remember the Ghost unit leader being very dangerous too, even in our high-powered campaign. Again, thanks for all the posts. Keep them coming, and do try to stick to the question where possible: Metahumans only, no immortals, no corp power players, no drones/spirits/vehicles. Just one guy plus equipment in a typical combat. If possible someone who has published stats as well, otherwise we can't really tell if they're as good as is claimed, can we now? :) |
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