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Aug 31 2004, 09:41 PM
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#76
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Pay X nuyen, kill X elves.
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Aug 31 2004, 09:58 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 |
Tir Ghosts are certainly pretty badass, although not insurmountable. Apparently shadowrunners are one of their favourite enemies, which is handy cos Ghosts are one of mine!!
Now if only there were stats for Paladins... |
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Aug 31 2004, 10:06 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,408 Joined: 31-January 04 From: Reston VA, USA Member No.: 6,046 |
[edit] Comment retracted because I don't know what I'm talking about.:S
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Sep 1 2004, 12:46 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
You remember incorrectly.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:32 AM
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Anybody have ballpark stats on Lofwyr?
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Sep 1 2004, 01:39 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
"Bigger than Alamaise"
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Sep 1 2004, 01:44 AM
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Um, ok. I don't even know how big Alamaise is...
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Sep 1 2004, 01:52 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
That was a joke, son.
Okay, at bare minimum Lowfyr: Body 25/20 Quickness 10(x4) Strength 50 Charisma 13 Intelligence 13 Willpower 13 Essence 12Z Magic 12 Reaction 10 Initative 10 + 3d6 Astral Initiative: 28 + 3d6 Attacks: 16D, +4 Reach Powers: Astral Armor, Dragonspeech, Enhanced Senses (Enhanced Smell, Wide-Band Hearing, Low-Light vision, thermographic vision), Hardened Armor, Innate Spell(Flamethrower), Magical Skills, Metahuman Form, Twist Fate Lofwyr is an initiate; he possesses the Possessing metamagic and is rumored to posses the Diving metamagic. |
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Sep 1 2004, 02:08 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
The only divers I know among the Great dragons are Script-Diver and the Sea Dragon. :D |
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Sep 1 2004, 03:03 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 26-February 02 From: harrisburg metroplex, pa Member No.: 623 |
i think some of the npcs from celtic double cross are nasty. don't have that up here though.
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Sep 1 2004, 03:25 AM
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Whoa, what is twist fate? I can't seem to find that in critters, is it from DotSW?
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Sep 1 2004, 07:40 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
It's in Do6w and it's the reason you will never, EVER kill a great dragon with a PC with a sane GM. It allows dragons to really messed up things like force anyone in his LOS to reroll all of their sucesses and such things. It reflects that great dragons dont follow the normal rules of fate and karma, they're better than that.
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Sep 1 2004, 08:56 AM
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Please note those are a bare minimum, as the stats Ancient posted are for a typical Western Great Dragon. Not only is Lofwyr - like most greats - a high-level initiate (which BTW means that Magic stat is off by at least 10 if you keep in mind that IEs like Harlequin are "double digit" initiates and its safe to assume Lofwyr was already a great when Harley was born) with potential access to all the metamagics and then some, but he's at least as physically powerful enough to challenge Ghostwalker/Icewing (as suggested in SotF) which places him physically a few grades above "typical" greats. For reference, Lofwyr is the only known great to have fought and killed another great (Nachtmeister) in the Sixth World (and beat the drek out of two others Kaltenstein and Alamaise). Add in possible stats modifiers from dragon-level magical defenses and augumentations, anchored and sustained spells, unique powers and the Jewel of Memory and you're better off not even considering stats. |
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Sep 1 2004, 09:03 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
Great dragons are forces of nature. The best way to deal with forces of nature like them are to be to small to be noticed or hve nukes. I bet a nuke would really cramp Lowyr's style.
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Sep 1 2004, 09:40 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Just remember this... Everytime a Great Dragon is knocked out(physical or stun Deadly), the dragon WILL lose a point of Magic. Since their Essense is 12, and assuming that their Magic matches that, any 2D6 roll to check for Magic loss will cause it to lose that Magic point. Heck, any dragon that gets knocked out will lose that Magic point.
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Sep 1 2004, 10:32 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
Uh, no, actually, they won't automatically lose magic for that. They have another special rule about that.
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Sep 1 2004, 11:25 AM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Heh, unless you can quote something... or the writers come up with another rule... they lose that point. |
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Sep 1 2004, 11:35 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,747 Joined: 11-December 02 From: France Member No.: 3,723 |
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Sep 1 2004, 11:36 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
If I were Lofwyr, I'd keep a few hundred Karma in my back pocket just to be able to insta-learn a new skill at a decent 2-digit rating if required. Then if some motherfucker managed to hit me with a barrage of SAMs and got me to Deadly +20 Over-Damage before 2 of my Quickened Force 20 Treats went off and healed me and I killed them all, I could just retreat to one of my impregnable underground fortresses for a few days and Initiate a few times again.
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Sep 1 2004, 11:42 AM
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,222 Joined: 11-October 02 From: Netherlands and Belgium Member No.: 3,437 |
Anchored Treats. :P
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Sep 1 2004, 11:46 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Yeah whatever, it's not as if I actually have to know the rules to fudge that sort of thing. ;)
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Sep 1 2004, 12:39 PM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
OK, but with being double digit initiates, pretty much makes that point moot doesn't it? 3D6 max = 18 base magic + double digit initiation = 12 + 10 = 22 |
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Sep 1 2004, 12:53 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
As mentioned Those stats are the bare minimum, And considering he's the ultimate chess player/ Puppet master, i'd be putting his Int at, at least the 15+ mark, more so considering Hestaby is Int 13, and allthough he is lost the rite (more likely due to his borther playing to stop Lofwyr win then to make himself win) he is smarter then her.
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Sep 1 2004, 01:50 PM
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
You got a Canon source for that Int 13 for Hestaby? |
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Sep 1 2004, 01:52 PM
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Deus Absconditus ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,742 Joined: 1-September 03 From: Downtown Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 5,566 |
Aren't Torgo's stats in New Seattle?
Or was that some other troll ganger? |
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