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post Aug 30 2004, 05:20 AM
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Or a str 6. I'm not a dope smoking crack fiend... I allow a reasonable underbarrel weight on most postols. In reality most underbarrel weights are used ONLY on pistols. :P
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post Aug 30 2004, 05:21 AM
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So, I'm sorry, but do you guys actually do the 'no underbarrel mounts for pistols' thing? Thats just ridiculous. I know its the rules, but any GM worth anything will realize that its retarded. I mean, heck, their picture of an underbarrel weight in the CC has it mounted on a pistol.

Don't tell me that its 'my house rule' or whatever: yeah, I know, but thats possibly more stupid than all guns in the same class using the same ammo.
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post Aug 30 2004, 05:40 AM
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no. nothing is more stupid than all guns in the same class using the same ammo.

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post Aug 30 2004, 07:55 AM
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It's a balance and simplicity thing, not a realism thing. I'm sure we're all aware that real pistols can have underbarrel laser sights, but pistols can do so much already that they don't need to be THAT loaded down with crap. I mean seriously, can you see a real life pistol with a Gas Vent IV, underbarrel weight, and laser sight? At some point you have to say, hey, that thing's a SMG at least...

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post Aug 30 2004, 10:54 AM
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heh no doubtin
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post Aug 30 2004, 12:00 PM
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Why not use SMGs instead? IIRC they can be "dualed" as well. A pair of Warriors with whatever accesseries you like and you should be rolling?
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post Aug 30 2004, 12:12 PM
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as far as multiple smartlinks, as a game master, i always have allowed it because when you boil it down, all it is is one red crosshair and one green one, aint nothing special about that.
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post Aug 30 2004, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (JaronK)
I mean seriously, can you see a real life pistol with a Gas Vent IV, underbarrel weight, and laser sight?

Well, you see several ported ("Gas Vented") Glocks with underbarrel laser sights, and I'm sure someone has put a LAM on the USP Match. Although the latter wouldn't be possible in SR anyway, since you can't have both an underbarrel weigh and an underbarrel laser sight.
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post Aug 30 2004, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (skipprjoe)
as far as multiple smartlinks, as a game master, i always have allowed it because when you boil it down, all it is is one red crosshair and one green one, aint nothing special about that.

But being able to effectively use both is pretty special.

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post Aug 30 2004, 02:48 PM
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I'd allow it with an installed tactical computer.
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:37 PM
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Hey guys! Thnx for all the replies!

I have reviewed your posts and come up with the following conclusion:

Since I only plan on firing my 2 legal shots per phase with some sort of HP, I donīt see the great need for RC other than some vents. Correct??

I will ask my GM to see if he will allow 2 smart link systems, and a tactical unit incorporated into the smart link systems, since I agree with whomever wrote it, that all it is, is a green bullseye and a red bullseye.

So what would I need of accessories if I get him to OK this constellation???

I read somewhere that the recoil carries over or something???

I guess my strong point in arguing with my GM should be, that I get a set of HPīs that only fires in SA mode. Dealing a max of 4 bullets per phase, and a max damage of 9M, with a max RC of +3 right???

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post Aug 30 2004, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE (Young Freud)
QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Aug 29 2004, 05:00 PM)
QUOTE (Young Freud @ Aug 29 2004, 04:22 PM)
Why not just use two Super Warhawks and start calling yourself "Roland"? :grinbig:

Because he'd need a Thompson gun, not dual pistols.

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I'm not "talking about the Man", I'm talking about the Gunslinger. And, if he did use a Thompson, he'd also be immortal, because, well, you know...

I do not kill with my hand; he who kills with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.

I kill with my heart. Motherfragger.
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:59 PM
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No real gunslinger would ever use a thompson, at least not for very long.
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post Aug 30 2004, 07:11 PM
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Adepts with the Quick Draw power are a thing of beauty. :D
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Bigity)
No real gunslinger would ever use a thompson, at least not for very long.

You were quite clearly not in Biafra.

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post Aug 30 2004, 10:40 PM
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Where in Gilead is that? :)
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:03 PM
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Africa, south eastern part of Nigeria to be exact. They're called search engines, might want to look into them.
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:04 PM
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Clearly, Bigity, the world has moved on since your post.
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:11 PM
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Sorry, am I missing a joke here or something?
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:23 PM
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Getting back to topic........ 8)
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:35 PM
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QUOTE (Topper28)
Hey guys! Thnx for all the replies!

I have reviewed your posts and come up with the following conclusion:

Since I only plan on firing my 2 legal shots per phase with some sort of HP, I donīt see the great need for RC other than some vents. Correct??

I will ask my GM to see if he will allow 2 smart link systems, and a tactical unit incorporated into the smart link systems, since I agree with whomever wrote it, that all it is, is a green bullseye and a red bullseye.

So what would I need of accessories if I get him to OK this constellation???

I read somewhere that the recoil carries over or something???

I guess my strong point in arguing with my GM should be, that I get a set of HPīs that only fires in SA mode. Dealing a max of 4 bullets per phase, and a max damage of 9M, with a max RC of +3 right???

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Anyone want to reply to thies?? :love:
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:42 PM
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As previously stated, while the system may be as simple as red bullseye, green bullseye, actually using it effectively isn't.

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post Aug 31 2004, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE (Topper28)
QUOTE (Topper28 @ Aug 30 2004, 01:37 PM)
Hey guys! Thnx for all the replies!

I have reviewed your posts and come up with the following conclusion:

Since I only plan on firing my 2 legal shots per phase with some sort of HP, I donīt see the great need for RC other than some vents. Correct??

I will ask my GM to see if he will allow 2 smart link systems, and a tactical unit incorporated into the smart link systems, since I agree with whomever wrote it, that all it is, is a green bullseye and a red bullseye.

So what would I need of accessories if I get him to OK this constellation???

I read somewhere that the recoil carries over or something???

I guess my strong point in arguing with my GM should be, that I get a set of HPīs that only fires in SA mode. Dealing a max of 4 bullets per phase, and a max damage of 9M, with a max RC of +3 right???

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Anyone want to reply to thies?? :love:

You only need 1 point of RC per bullet fired per combat phase, at most.

With a single pistol, the first shot has no penality, but produces +1 recoil that carries over to the second shot. All you really need to a personalized grip to cancel it out.

With two pistols, uncompensated recoil from one carries over to the other.
If you shoot each once, per combat phase you only need 1 point of RC on the first pistol. If you shoot the first pistol twice, you need 1 RC on each. If you shoot both pistols twice, then you only need 2 RC on the first and 1 RC on the second.
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post Aug 31 2004, 11:05 PM
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No book infront of me but isn't it possible to get 6 points comp out of a HP?
Heavy Barrel, Gasvent4, and Personal Grip ... I don't think the heavy barrel counts as a mount ... I'm probably wrong though :)

[edit for bad, bad gramar ;)]
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post Aug 31 2004, 11:08 PM
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The gas vent destroys the point of a pistol, namely concealability.

Well, not entirely, as you can still use a proper quick-draw holster for one, but it kills a big advantage.

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