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 Sep 4 2004, 11:21 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587  |
What is the effect of surg or goblinisation on pre installed cyber wear and biowear.
With a minor serge effect I can see it having no effect but imaging having cyber legs and turning into a troll. A smart gun link would be a problem as the fibber optic link from your eye to your hand will not have a long enough cable. If the brain structure different enough that headwear bio and cyber need to be built differently. This could be lethal in an otherwise normal transfer. Also how common was cyber wear before the advent of goblinisation) Edward |
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Sep 4 2004, 11:24 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Not very common. |
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Sep 4 2004, 11:29 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
People do still goblinize postnatally, though it typically happens at puberty and thus limits the plausible cyberware loadout. Most likely would be a datajack or cybereyes being rendered useless.
~J |
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Sep 4 2004, 11:52 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,049 Joined: 24-March 03 Member No.: 4,323 |
I've heard this mentioned before, and yes there was another wave of goblinizations in 2061. However. aside from the original goblinization event and the comet-linked goblinizations, do you have any canon references to the fact that it still occurs? |
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Sep 5 2004, 12:02 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
It's talked about in the genetic discussions in SotA2063. Just that it happens, and that there is a complicated reason why.
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Sep 5 2004, 01:46 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
In the year of the comet cyber wear was common what happened to all the surge victims (victim sounds so negative, what is the politically correct term)
And with the change of skull shape I can see a data jack killing you. It is wired into the brain. “Full Borg conversion goblinises. By mass we assume he as going to be a troll but it could have been a variant type.” What have you done with people that where blessed by the surge when they had cyber wear. Edward |
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Sep 5 2004, 11:37 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,665 Joined: 26-April 03 From: Sweden Member No.: 4,516 |
The ork combat decker in one of my campaigns SURGEd, but none of the effects were severe enough to really affect his cyber (Cat's Eyes (he had natural), Altered Skin Color, some cosmetic changes to his ears and nose-mouth area, Critter Spook, Color Blind).
For guidelines about how to treat existing Cyber/Bio during goblinization or SURGE, I'd suggest looking to the rules for becoming a ghoul in SC. |
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Sep 5 2004, 04:46 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,049 Joined: 24-March 03 Member No.: 4,323 |
The answer to this question is in YotC, and I'm surprised noone has quoted that source yet:
So the official answer is that it's up to the GM, but, generally, rather than harming the user, cyber tends to get damaged or destroyed. I'd say that, from the standpoint of trying to be realistic, it can in certain circumstances be quite a bit tricker than that. When you become a ghoul your body does undergo some major physiological changes, true. But you dont change drastically in size. What happens when someone with titanium bone lacing or a cybertorso goblinizes into a troll? It seems to me that either of those would result in quick, messy death - unless you ignore the pictures and timeline text and rule that goblinization takes place over the course of several days or weeks, in which case they would cause a slow messy death unless removed very early in the transformation. |
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Sep 5 2004, 10:53 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
Just imgained a human with titanium lacing SURGEing into a troll....
ouch... |
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Sep 7 2004, 04:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 22-June 02 From: Parts Without Member No.: 2,897 |
When just such a thing happened in my game (heavily chromed street sam had cyberware magically purged-- part of a pre-SURGE hand-of-god sort of event), I described the experience to my player thus:
"The agony that you are experiencing is unlike any pain you've ever known. Rivulets of molten aluminum pour out of your skin at several places, and yet somehow you neither bleed, nor burn. For a woman whose life has been cyber-enhanced up until now, getting used to this magic business is going to take a very long time." |
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Sep 8 2004, 12:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 122 Joined: 1-September 04 Member No.: 6,621 |
In SOTA 2063, it is mentioned that goblinization only occurs when the mana level is high (it also said that some ork and troll children are born human and then goblinize at puberty). So, if a baby with the necessary genetics is born in an area of low mana levels and grows to adulthood there and then leaves that area for an area of normal mana, they would very quickly goblinize. This is most likely in SR to occur to babies born in areas of mana warp (outerspace, as an example). Theoretically, if a baby with ork genetics, for example, were conceived and raised in an area of mana warp...say a facility completely filled with Strain III, or parts of Chicago or Z-O...and then left as an adult, they would then goblinize. |
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Sep 8 2004, 02:30 AM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
I was also under the impression that it could only happen at puberty if they were born a sapiens sapiens, a window of opportunity of sorts.
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