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Neuron Basher
post Sep 7 2004, 02:27 PM
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I recently upgraded the Apache webserver and PHP software that the forum code runs on and things didn't go quite as smoothly as I hoped. There are still some residual weirdness and it appears to have caused an outage this morning. If you notice the forums down, PLEASE send a note to forums[at]dumpshock.com and we'll try to get things back up as quickly as possible. We'll try to get things stabilized as fast as we can so we can avoid this kind of thing in the future, or at least until the next major upgrade.
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post Sep 7 2004, 05:55 PM
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I noticed several outages yesterday--September 6--I presume that was from the upgrading. Thanks for clarifying why...
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Neuron Basher
post Sep 7 2004, 10:31 PM
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It did it again -- thanks for those that let me know. Made a change and trying again -- thanks for your patience, believe me it's at least as annoying to me as it is to everyone else.
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post Sep 7 2004, 10:43 PM
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I'd imagine more, as you actually have to fix it. We just have to whine at you about it ;)

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Neuron Basher
post Sep 8 2004, 03:49 AM
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Thanks again, J, for letting me know it went down. I think I tracked down the problem this time and put in a permanent fix. Optimism is high.

As usual, let me know if it goes belly-up again.

I. Hate. Windows.
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Neuron Basher
post Sep 8 2004, 01:17 PM
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Ok, I reverted PHP back a version, we'll see what happens this time. If this goes on much longer, I'll be reverting all the way back to the state before the upgrade. I'll get it figured out soon.

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Neuron Basher
post Sep 8 2004, 02:40 PM
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Everything is reverted. If it keeps crashing, I'm going to set it on fire and give up.
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post Sep 8 2004, 03:17 PM
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-> Bug Reports

This post has been edited by Austere Emancipator: Sep 9 2004, 02:47 AM
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post Sep 8 2004, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Neuron Basher @ Sep 7 2004, 11:49 PM)
I.  Hate.  Windows.

Check for worms and spyware. :S

Will the next major upgrade involve moving to a real OS? :P
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Neuron Basher
post Sep 8 2004, 07:44 PM
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Do not get me started. I was implored to run Windows on the server by someone who will remain nameless. Needless to say, I wish I hadn't . Oh well, these things happen.

I'd have already switched it to Linux, but it would be a huge mess unless I had another server to build in parallel to transition stuff off to. And I don't have one, so we grin and bear it. Someday....
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post Sep 8 2004, 08:20 PM
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Posted a note on the homepage. Forums are up now, but not sure how long they'll stay up. Bottom line: Expect them to go down in the near future and stay down until late this evening, at which point they should stabilize somewhat.

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post Sep 8 2004, 08:24 PM
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I don't know whether this is related to the bug or not, but prior to the upgrade/outages, pressing "Reply" and logging in at that point used to leave me within the thread. Now, it sends me back to the main forums page.
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Neuron Basher
post Sep 9 2004, 01:12 AM
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That's an artifact of the changes we made. It should resolve itself soon, I hope.
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post Sep 9 2004, 01:14 AM
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UPDATE: The forums are up! I've moved the forums completely off of the server instance that was running them and into a Linux instance. This is somewhat of a stopgap solution since we're still talking to the database on the old instance, but it should restore the stability that has been sorely lacking. I'll be making more permanent changes in the coming weeks, once I'm convinced that things are going to at least be stable while I work.

Please continue to report outages with the forums and with all the Dumpshock sites to forums[at]dumpshock.com.
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post Sep 9 2004, 01:18 AM
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Hey. Just wanted to say that despite all the headaches and problems, the hearburn and the sweat, I think I speak for us all in saying THANKS!
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Neuron Basher
post Sep 9 2004, 01:20 AM
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You're welcome. I appreciate the thought.
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post Sep 9 2004, 01:38 AM
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Amen. We appreciate it in spades.

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post Sep 9 2004, 01:48 AM
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post Sep 9 2004, 01:54 AM
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Unrelated, I think. If you would post a Bug Report on it, that would be great. I'll try to look into it as soon as I can.
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post Sep 9 2004, 03:19 AM
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If I was your Mr. Johnson, I'd be giving you a sweet bonus right now for having this back up, you better believe it. :D Thanks as well!
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post Sep 9 2004, 07:40 AM
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If I was his Johnson, I'd be trying to find an excuse to not pay him. Fortunately, we're quarter-decent human beings here :D

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post Sep 9 2004, 08:02 AM
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Neuron Basher you're doing a great job, much appreciated. I to am Mr. Fixit for Windows, got to shift to Linux, well, as soon as I learn it.
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post Sep 9 2004, 08:13 AM
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I've been a Unix system administrator for a dozen or so years, so that's definitely where I prefer to run servers when given the choice. I was given the choice this time, and decided to try something "new" when we deployed this server, but I wish I hadn't. I plan to rectify that mistake as soon as I can.

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post Sep 9 2004, 11:04 AM
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Thanks for all your work. It is appreciated. (I was going to say "vastly" appreciated or some such, but I don't know an adequate adverb for the work you've pulled.)

Is Windows a virus?

No, Windows is not a virus. Here's what viruses do:
  • They replicate quickly. Okay, Windows does that.
  • Viruses use up valuable system resources, slowing down the system as they do so ... okay, Windows does that.
  • Viruses will, from time to time, trash your hard disk ... okay, Windows does that too.
  • Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the user, along with valuable programs and systems. Sigh ... Windows does that, too.
  • Viruses will occasionally make the user suspect their system is too slow (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware. Yup, Windows does that, too.

Until now it might seem that Windows is a virus, but there are fundamental differences: viruses are well supported by their authors; they are active on most systems; their program code is fast, compact, and efficient; and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature.

So Windows is not a virus. It's a bug.

And now back to our regularly scheduled screwing over of PCs, already in progress :D
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post Sep 9 2004, 11:26 AM
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Feh, Windows may have been the suck in the past, but if I were unix people, I'd start learning the 2003 products and XP before I found myself out of a job :)
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