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post Sep 15 2004, 07:06 AM
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F-Shop displays as available in German the novel Born To run written by Steve Kenson, starring Kellan Colt, a SR Duels character. Just wanted to let people know.
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post Sep 15 2004, 11:06 AM
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ARRRGGHHHHH!!!!


I need to learn to read German!!!!!!!
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post Sep 15 2004, 11:32 AM
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How much SR product do they sell in Germany compared to the US I wonder.
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post Sep 15 2004, 12:04 PM
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A lot as far as novels are concerned...just check ebay...I think I should go back to my dusty german copybboks from school days...
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post Sep 15 2004, 12:15 PM
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What about the actual game-book sales?
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post Sep 15 2004, 12:25 PM
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There is a new german sourcebook out now called "Brennpunkt: ADL" (Target: AGS).
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post Sep 15 2004, 01:31 PM
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eh... kenson novels really fail to excite me. i'm miffed on principle, though.
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post Sep 15 2004, 04:19 PM
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The issue here is simple FanPro D has the license to print SR novels in German language be they originally written in German or English. On the other hand FanPro US' license does not extend to novels, and no matter how much the FanPro crew might want to put out books (or not) the rights are in Wizkids' hands. This one happened to be one of a trilogy Steve Kenson was working on for the Shadowrun Duels line which Wizkids has apparently suspended. If people want to try to change the situation they should contact or mail Wizkids.

Regarding market size, SR sells pretty well in Germany and FanPro is the leading German RPG company (mostly because it stole WotC/TSR's roost out from under it with The Dark Eye rpg 20 years ago and have never given it back). Though no official slaes figures are known, SR is regularly in the Top 3 most played games in Germany and some friends of mine at a major European games distributor tell me SR sales in Europe (primarily UK and Germany but also France) are pretty high these days compared to North America. This has in part to do with the fact that though we've had an industry slump in Europe it never got as bad as it did in the US and we apparently have a higher ratio of players/completionists than the US (meaning its not just the GMs buying all the books).

Regarding Target:AGS (Brennpunkt: ADL), it is this year's German-only release and it expands and updates DidSII, as well as developing a number of local topics SOTA-style (magic, media, German politics, etc) and integrating some of the developments in SoE (the secession of Marienbad, the NEEC, etc).
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post Sep 15 2004, 04:41 PM
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y'know, i should probably just go ahead and move to Germany.
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post Sep 15 2004, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
(mostly because it stole WotC/TSR's roost out from under it with The Dark Eye rpg 20 years ago and have never given it back).

Given that WotC was founded in 1990, I seriously doubt that anything was stolen from under them twenty years ago.

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post Sep 15 2004, 06:02 PM
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Would it have helped if I had written it TSR/WotC instead? I just meant that The Dark Eye stole the place that D&D and AD&D have a lock on in the US.
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post Sep 16 2004, 11:37 AM
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Right, I'm just nitpicking how you said it. This is Dumpshock, after all :)

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post Sep 16 2004, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE (Synner)
I just meant that The Dark Eye stole the place that D&D and AD&D have a lock on in the US.

And The Dark Eye isn't even the oldest German fantasy rpg - "Midgard" is some years older.

The reason TDE became so prominent in Germany was the distribution:
While the game was developed by FanPro it was marketed and sold by Schmidt Spiele - a company that mainly produced traditional board and card games.
Consequently, unlike other rpgs TDE could be found in ordinary toy shops and became well-known.
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