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post Sep 23 2004, 02:09 AM
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I think I know the answer to this, just wanted to check.

If I'm making PDFs (which I'll stick on my website), am I right in understanding that use of the corporate logos from shadowrunrpg.com IS NOT allowed? If it is, I'll put 'em in and make it spiffy. But I don't think it is.
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post Sep 23 2004, 02:49 AM
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As long as the logos are unchanged, and as long as the rest of the materials are noninfringing, I'm pretty sure that's under what WizKids grants you.

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post Sep 23 2004, 03:40 AM
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If they sue you for giving them free advertising then they are a piss pore bunch of money-grubbing imbeciles.

That of cause is a distinct possibility.

Check there website find a contact us link and send them a request.

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post Sep 23 2004, 03:44 AM
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Is that the Adam-signal I see in the sky?

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post Sep 23 2004, 06:17 PM
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Is that the Adam-signal I see in the sky?

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ROFPMSL!
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post Sep 23 2004, 06:43 PM
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3. Copyright - It is not permissible to post published copyrighted Shadowrun material, writing or artwork, in whole or in part, on your web pages, without the prior written consent of WizKids, LLC.
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post Sep 23 2004, 07:47 PM
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If they sue you for giving them free advertising then they are a piss pore bunch of money-grubbing imbeciles.


As I understand, copyright law obligates a company to contest unauthorized use of its copyrighted material, or its loses the copyright, and then anyone can use the material for fun or profit.

If so, it'd be pretty stupid to not contest unauthorized use of copyrighted material.

And it'd be pretty rude to not ask permission when contact with FanPro is an e-mail away.
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post Sep 23 2004, 10:01 PM
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Except they deny any and all requests for such use.

Why bother saying:
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WizKids, LLC has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. WizKids, LLC has granted permission to < fill in the name of your site > to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with < fill in the name of your site > in any official capacity whatsoever.

if you can't actually do it?
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post Sep 24 2004, 04:17 AM
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I'm pretty sure that Dumpshock has a permission thingy from Whizkids...
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post Sep 24 2004, 04:19 AM
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But that's the standard text they give to go on any fansite.

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post Sep 24 2004, 04:01 PM
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Basically, WizKids allows you to use stuff within fair use rights - reproducing covers for advertising/review purposes, the game logo, etc. They don't allow you to modify such things, and, obviously, reproducing large quantities of their artwork is frowned upon.

Please note that FanPro does not own or manage any Shadowrun-related trademarks or copyright.
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post Sep 24 2004, 07:27 PM
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As I understand, copyright law obligates a company to contest unauthorized use of its copyrighted material, or its loses the copyright, and then anyone can use the material for fun or profit.

You're confusing Copyrights with Trademarks. Check this link out for a clarification of the 10 most common Copyright myths:
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html
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post Sep 24 2004, 07:40 PM
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Except they deny any and all requests for such use.

Why bother saying:
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WizKids, LLC has sole ownership of the names, logo, artwork, marks, photographs, sounds, audio, video and/or any proprietary material used in connection with the game Shadowrun. WizKids, LLC has granted permission to < fill in the name of your site > to use such names, logos, artwork, marks and/or any proprietary materials for promotional and informational purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not affiliated with < fill in the name of your site > in any official capacity whatsoever.

if you can't actually do it?

You've omitted the text that immediately preceeds that statement:

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1) Legal Text - Please use the following text at the bottom of your home page and on any other web page that includes Shadowrun material, also if the creator of any artwork is positively known, please insert credit(s) to the artist(s):


WizKids isn't granting permission here; they're just clarifying what you are obligated to do for them if you've received permission to use their properties. This includes both the logo they permit non-commercial fansites to use, as well as any material that you've received written approval to use.

At least, that's my interpretation (IANAL).
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