RP advice requested, for a rather... odd... turn of events Options

[Kagetenshi]

I'm not offended, I just think you're drawing the wrong conclusion from it. Some people who feel they're transgendered need therapy to come to grips with the change, so how many orders of magnitude less likely would it be for someone who doesn't feel that to come to grips with the fact that they're not just going to change at some point if they decided to, but that they have changed against their will?

~J

[Edward]

Shock, disbelief. Blame surge (tame dependant) the timeline you described for the change is a bit long but I think surge would be the likely explanation (OC I assume it is not but IC it looks good in the absence of evidence to the contrary).

How far you take the sexual experimentation depends on your characters mentality to sex and your groups taste for (and maturity towards) such things.

Edward

[k1tsune]

[Black Isis]

[Kamquat]

One other bit of entertainment you can check out for shifting genders is Orlando by Virginia Woolf. It might not have the same resonance for a Shadowrun game since it is primarily about gender roles in the 18th though 20th centuries in England but the main character starts out as a upity nobleman and turns into a woman as the story progresses. If nothing else you can say you read some old fashioned liturature in preperation for the game.
There is a movie version of the book somewhere, but I've not seen it and can't attest to its value.

[Jason Farlander]

[Thistledown]

Another minor thing to consider - you'll have to wait a few weeks for new Form Fitting Body Armor. Good thing you don't have cyberware. I can see quite a few problems with bone lacing or dermal sheathing.

As to the astral look of the character, I always think of it like the 'residual self image' described in the Matrix movie. So yes, the char would probably still look male, probably for quite a while. Even when Neo found out he had ports all over his body, he never manifested those in the matrix. This is a much bigger change, I know, but just a theory.

[Kagetenshi]

[Jason Farlander]

Ok, update.

Tonight we held the session in which the transformation took place. If anyone is interested in reading the log file (it's an irc game) I'll post that at the end of this deal. Its kinda long, though, so I'm going to spoilertag it and edit out all of the irrelevant OOC chatter.

Ok. Now. Apparently, as another side effect of the change, the character now feels smarter, healthier, and more agile (his... err, her... quickness, intelligence, and body have all increased by 1 point) than she ever did before. So... what are your thoughts about how this would affect her, IC? I mean... to those who have expressed sincere doubts that she would ever come to accept such a thing without some exceptional circumstances, how do you think those changes should factor in?

Anyway, for your amusement, here is the (edited) log of the part of the session devoted to her transformation (all references to the cause of the change were whimsically baleeted). It picks up after Syke (my character) had been incapacitatingly ill for about a week. Also, to clarify before anyone gets too terribly confused, Floyd and Foamy are a pair of (insane) free spirits who have become interested in our group and pop in and out at random to harass us and occaisionally help us out. So, without further ado:

[ Spoiler ]

<Ethan_SR_DM> *Belle, when you go to check on Syke that monday, you realise that he looks...different.*
<BelleAnderson> *blinks and looks to se what EXACTLY is different*
<Syke> "Hey... hey belle... i think im hallucinating..."
<BelleAnderson> "How so?"
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Softer and smoother skin, more rounded and feminine face, a general swelling in the chest area, hair slightly longer, all around more feminine apperance.*
<BelleAnderson> *blinks* "Um...Syke I think it's safe to you are not suffering from VITAS. o_O"
<Ethan_SR_DM> *And Syke, you do feel quite weird right now.*
<BelleAnderson> "The bad news is well, were those Toxic Shamans...uh female?"
<Syke> "oh... heh... you must be part of my hallucination.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
<Syke> *fumbles around for his phone*
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Ok, you find your phone genieous, now what?*
<BelleAnderson> *just waits and hopes that he'll be sane before Tiffany has her shot at him.*
<Syke> *calls belle*
<Ethan_SR_DM> *RING, RING, RING! Right infront of you.*
<BelleAnderson> *pulls out her ringing phone* "Your not imagining me Syke"
<Syke> "oh thats cute thats" *cough* "VERY FUCKING CUTE"
<Ethan_SR_DM> *And Belle his voice is about half way between that of a man and a woman right now.*
<BelleAnderson> "I think you need to go back to sleep Syke."
<Syke> *starts hitting himself in the head* "GET OUT OF THERE!"
<Syke> *mutters* "c'mon belle... answer your phone..."
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Ahh I misread it.*
<BelleAnderson> "Syke...please calm down." *And where are Foamy and Floyd when she NEEDS them?!*
<BelleAnderson> *answers the phone*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy/Floyd: *POOF in*
<Syke> "Hey belle! I'm talking to you right now, but its not YOU!"
<BelleAnderson> "Yes it is Syke...your a little loopy right now, how about taking a nap?"
<Syke> "Nope! I'll prove it! You cant target hallucinations with spells!"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: WHOAH!! Hold on there psyco
<Syke> *gets ready to cast powerbolt*
<BelleAnderson> *dives outta the room* "Shit...*hangs up and calls Tangent!*"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: ....Belle...run...
<Syke> *cough cough* "There, SEE? YOURE GONE NOW!"
<BelleAnderson> "I liked him better when he was the SANE one...*waits for Tangent to pick up his phone*"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: *grabs his collar and smacks him* SNAP...OUT...OF...IT...YOU...PSYCOHTIC...ASSHOLE!
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: *picks up*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: Yeah?
<BelleAnderson> "Tangent? I have a...problem with Syke."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: What kind of problem?
<Syke> *calmly* "Look, I'm trying. I realize I'm being delusional now... I just need to sort it out."
<Syke> "I mean listen to me! Thats not me speaking, but it is!"
<Syke> *coughing fit*
<BelleAnderson> "Well it's a collection actually, he's a bit psycho right now, he thinks he's seeing things. The -baleeted- is kicking in too."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: You're not being delusional you asshole! You're turning into a CHICK! You fucked around with that -baleeted- and now you're growing tits. This is NOT a halucination
<Syke> "Ugh... maybe.... maybe I just need some more sleepytime..."
<Syke> "Oh so youre a part of it too, eh?"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: ~_~...With all the tact of a run away train...
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: ....And the effects are?
<BelleAnderson> "I think....he's...turningintoawoman..." >_<
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: ......................*Hystericall laughter*
<Syke> *centers a stunball on himself and casts it at moderate*
<BelleAnderson> *glares at her phone* "You are NO help!"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy/Floyd: *POOF out in a hurry*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: I'm sorry, I'm sorry
<Syke> roll 9#1d6
<Sykebot> 4,1Syke rolled :7,1 9#1d6 --> 10,1[ 1d6=1 ]8,1{1}, 10,1[ 1d6=3 ]8,1{3}, 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=3 ]8,1{3}, 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=4 ]8,1{4}, 10,1[ 1d6=2 ]8,1{2}, 10,1[ 1d6=1 ]8,1{1}, 10,1[ 1d6=5 ]8,1{5}
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: But that's what he gets for looting bodies all the time
<Syke> roll 8#1d6 resisting drain
<Sykebot> 4,1Syke rolled :7,1 8#1d6 4,1resisting drain --> 10,1[ 1d6=3 ]8,1{3}, 10,1[ 1d6=3 ]8,1{3}, 10,1[ 1d6=2 ]8,1{2}, 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=4 ]8,1{4}, 10,1[ 1d6=5 ]8,1{5}, 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=1 ]8,1{1}
<BelleAnderson> "I know I know...~_~ So how do I deal with him?"
<Syke> roll 5#1d6 resisting the stunball
<Sykebot> 4,1Syke rolled :7,1 5#1d6 4,1resisting the stunball --> 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=2 ]8,1{2}, 10,1[ 1d6=3 ]8,1{3}, 10,1[ 1d6=6 ]8,1{6}, 10,1[ 1d6=4 ]8,1{4}
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Ok, you knock yourself out with the stun ball.*
<Syke> "zzzzz"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: *appears on Belle's shoulder* e__e!! He's fucking PSYCHO!
<BelleAnderson> *peeks in* "Tangent....he just hit himself with a Stunball and I kinda noticed that Floyd."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: *appears on his other shoulder* Just wait till he's done..
<BelleAnderson> *shutters*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: If I were you, I'd stay away from him till the transformation is over
<Ethan_SR_DM> Tangent: Until he realises that he's not halucinating he's dangerous
<BelleAnderson> "Gotcha." *to rodents* "Okay you two are on official babysitting duty he can't really hurt you two."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Spirits: *salute*
<BelleAnderson> *quickly leaves before he wakes up and locks Syke in his/her apartment*
<Ethan_SR_DM> LOL!
<Ethan_SR_DM> OK!
<BelleAnderson> *Is NOT going to tell ANYBODY about this one..no way in hell, not till it's all over*
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((As Syke is gonna be locked up for another week, anything you guys want to do before I move on to the finale of Syke's TF?))
<BelleAnderson> ((Other than picking up a few things that Syke is gonna need in a week?))
<Skeezix> ((how many days does that make it? am i out of the hospital?))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Yes. Besides those.))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Yes you are Skeezix, but Dax is still in.))
<Skeezix> ((i'll wait, but as i said, i'd like to go on my astral quest soon and get invoking))
<Warfare> ((I will call Goerge and request ammunition. Regular bullets for a LMG. No less than 200 rounds))
<Warfare> ((Preferably, already clipped into a belt))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Not a problem
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Anything else?))
<Syke> *Probably leaves a few crazy messages on belle's voicemail, telling her that he would like her to come by but not if she isnt real this time and the like
<Warfare> ((That's all for now))
<BelleAnderson> *gets cream cheese and bagels for Foamy* ~_~
<Skeezix> ((make sure my astral ward around my apt is all nice))
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Thanks for that little gem. Anyway, come next Monday, Foamy stops by Belle's place.*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: Hey, Belle. Syke's done chickifying.
<BelleAnderson> *hands him the bagel and cream cheese* "How is h...she?"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: You with me here...
<Syke> *is astrally projecting*
<BelleAnderson> "Has Syke realized it's not an illusion yet?"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: *rolls eyes* No odea
<Syke> "Hey floyd. I need help finding my body."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: ....You're floating right above you
<BelleAnderson> *sighs* ~_~ "Is he gonna powerbolt me if I go over?"
<Syke> "Nonono" *laughs* "Thats not me. Thats some chick i seem to have somehow possessed."
<BelleAnderson> "Erk....SHE gonna powerbolt me..."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: De-nile. No longer just a river in egypt..e_e
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: Don't think so...right now he;s in the astral plane, trying to find "his body" like a moron.
<Syke> "But I seem to have somehow managed to form a link with it."
<BelleAnderson> "Okay I'm going over there...~_~"
<Syke> "See, when i try to return to my body" *zips back to her body, then projects again* "I end up in hers."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: LISTEN TO YOURSELF! e_e! You know that's practically impossible!
<Syke> "Yeah, well, weirder things have happened."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: But you did take a -baleeted-, and then TOUCH a woman's body almost immediatly afterwords!
<Syke> "So will you please help me find my body? Or do I need to go look on my own?"
<BelleAnderson> *heads over to Syke's place*
<Syke> "Thats not me. Look at my astral form. This is me."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: I think I'll sit here till you realise the truth.
<Syke> "Suit yourself" *zips out in search of his body*
<Quick_Silver> ((... Syke saw Quick's astral form... y'know, the one that matched his gender not?))
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: *calls after him* Just remember! Belle's Astral form doesn't match her body either!
<Ethan_SR_DM> *And Syke starts a search for his body and after hours of looking he ends right back at the girl's body.*
<Syke> ((is belle there when i return?))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Yup
<BelleAnderson> *is sitting on a chair next to the bed waiting*
<Syke> "Re-enters her body"
<Syke> "Hey belle. Give me a moment please."
<BelleAnderson> "Okay"
<Syke> *astrally percieves and assenses herself to see if there is a sustained transformation spell or something*
<Ethan_SR_DM> *No.*
<Syke> -sigh-
<BelleAnderson> *just waits*
<BelleAnderson> "Syke?"
<Syke> "Hey... umm, I seem to have misplaced my body. I dont remember a lot of what happened these past two weeks... do you have any ideas as to where it might be? These spirits keep joking around and arent being any help."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Fomay: *APPEARS* I AM NOT JOKEING YOU ASSHOLE! *vanishes again*
<Syke> "See what i mean?"
<BelleAnderson> *deep breath* "Syke I'm going to ask you a few questions, those two Toxic Shamans that you looted? Was either one or both female?"
<Syke> "Yeah probably...! Wait! Do you think she survived and has my body somehow?"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: .....*FACEPALMS*
<BelleAnderson> "No no, she was quite dead when we left her. But you DO know how -baleeted-
<Syke> "It's... its kinda fuzzy... its weird... theres a lot of weirdness going on in my head right now..."
<BelleAnderson> "Okay I
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: *appears again* I can't wait for the impending realization
<BelleAnderson> 'll explain it again, -baleeted-. Are you following me here Syke?"
<Syke> "Dont get me wrong... this isnt a bad body... It feels, healthier than mine. Tougher. But I still want mine back."
<BelleAnderson> "Syke, that is your body...it's be altered thanks to -baleeted- and you touching that shaman."
<Syke> "...but...thats... no......"
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: Here it comes...
<Syke> *SCREAMS*
<BelleAnderson> *winces* >_<
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: And the last horse finally crosses the finish line!
<Warfare> *Perks up, in his Redmond apartment* {That's strange. I feel as if I've just heard the scream. The Scream of Ultimate Suffering...meh.} *Resumes jamming in his mind*
<Syke> *a little too calmly* "I suggest you all leave now. I am going to start breaking things."
<BelleAnderson> ((OOC I am dying of laughter))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((LOL))
<Ethan_SR_DM> Spirits: POOF!
<BelleAnderson> "As long as one of the things isn't yourself.." *runs outta the room and shuts the door behind her*
<Syke> *starts throwing random shit around and powerbolting furniature*
<Syke> *oh, and screaming obscenities*
<BelleAnderson> *stands in the living room waiting for the tantrum to end*
<Ethan_SR_DM> *She has a musical voice while she's freaking out.*
<BelleAnderson> *leaves a message for Tangent that Syke has accepted the truth*
<Syke> (("accepted" might be too strong a word at this point))
<Syke> *the door belle is hiding behind crumbles as a powerbolt strikes it*
<BelleAnderson> ((Well she no longer thinks it's an illusion at least...that's progress at least))
<BelleAnderson> *dives outta the way* "Syke...calm down please...o_o*
<Syke> "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK"
<BelleAnderson> "You know there is a BRIGHT side to this...."
<Syke> *whirls around and glares at Belle*
<BelleAnderson> "Your enemies will never be able to track you ritually now." o_o "That's a plus right..." *ready to bolt for the door*
<Syke> *then loses her balance, not being accustomed to her new center of gravity, and falls over*
<BelleAnderson> "You okay?" *inches closer*
<Syke> *starts crying*
<BelleAnderson> *sighs and gathers up the mage* "Let it out okay?"
<Syke> "Why... fucking... why... why am I crying, anyway? I shouldnt be crying... I should be trying to sort this out..." *sniff* "god...fucking... dammit..."
<Syke> *sobs*
<BelleAnderson> "I know the feeling you ain't the only one in the room to wake up completely different from what she was."
<Syke> *between crying fits* "Two things.... First.... I'm gonna need a new apartment... this one is trashed."
<Syke> "Second... I need to find a way to... fix... this..."
<Syke> *mutters* "Get a grip, man"
<BelleAnderson> *nods* "Wait....did you take that sample when you forged the Magic Group? Back in CalFree?"
<Syke> "Third... I am going to fucking find and fucking kill Victor. Three things."
<BelleAnderson> *shakes Syke* "Before you get plotting you have slightly more importiant things to worry about."
<Syke> "-sniff- yeah... theyre in the fridge in dax's t-bird"
<Syke> *shakily tries to stand up*
<BelleAnderson> "Okay I've heard of Gene swapping we might be able to restore you via that sample, but I have to look into it, could affect your magic skill. And face it Syke you need some more...personal items quick."
<Syke> "...!"
<BelleAnderson> "Your a woman Syke. Your wardrobe ain't gonna fit and there are certain...things you better be brought up to speed on."
<Syke> "..." *sits down on the floor, staring into space*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: ....You broke her
<BelleAnderson> *sits next to her* "Come on Syke your tougher than this."
<Syke> "Those... those suits... were thousands of nuyen... apiece..."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: Then get dresses that are thousands of nuyen apiece
<BelleAnderson> *patpat* "So we find a taylor to alter a few and keep the rest."
<Syke> "Floyd... Foamy... go away."
<Ethan_SR_DM> *POOF* *POOF*
<Syke> *stands up* "Alright belle. Lets do this thing. I can get past this... afterall, I'm gonna find a way to reverse it. Its only temporary."
<BelleAnderson> *nods* "That's the spirit okay first order of business is to get you some clothing, second...break the news to the others."
<Syke> *shakes his head*
<Syke> "Maybe... maybe lets not tell the others just yet..."
<Ethan_SR_DM> *Meanwhile....*
<Ethan_SR_DM> Foamy: *hands Warfare a note and vanishes*
<Syke> "I mean, maybe I'll find a way to reverse it...you know, soon..."
<Syke> *fights back the urge to cry some more*
<BelleAnderson> "I'll be honest Syke the DNA swap takes three months to complete and costs a shit load of nuyen, it'll take months to save up enough."
<Syke> "... well then I'll find a magical solution. Magic can do anything."
<BelleAnderson> "But it will take time, we have to tell them. Okay?"
<Syke> "I have access to the metaplanes now... so I can go on an astral quest to find a solution. Astral quests can solve anything." *nods fiercely, trying to convince herself that this is true*
<BelleAnderson> *doesn't want to burst the bubble* "Right, if there is an answer out there you will find it, but right now you aint going anywhere in your ill fitting pajamas."
<Ethan_SR_DM> *And the pajamas really DON'T fit. Syke is really well endowed now.*
<Syke> "Ok... so... I've never shopped for... womens clothes, before..." *thinks* "Well, I guess thats not true, but its been a really long time..."
<Ethan_SR_DM> *But much more lithe and atheletic than he used to be.*
<Syke> *sighs somewhat wistfully, then regains her composure*
<BelleAnderson> "I'll help, I'll most likely think of stuff you might not."
<Syke> "So... right... I'll need your help on this."
<BelleAnderson> "You got it, we dont want to give Tiffany anymore ammo that this is already gonna give her afterall."
<Syke> "Lets... lets just... I mean, we can tell the others I guess... but not Tiff... not yet."
<BelleAnderson> "Tangent is the only other person who knows."
<Ethan_SR_DM> Floyd: ....Doesn't she still live with you?
<Syke> "I have enough to deal with right now... I dont want to have to worry about dealing with that, too"
<Syke> "She's living at my other place right now... with her mom or whatever..."
<Syke> "...see? thats weird... certain things are really clear to me, but others are less so..."
<Syke> *shakes her head* "But whatever. Lets take care of what needs taking care of."
<BelleAnderson> *nods*
<BelleAnderson> ((I don't really see the need to RP the shopping...and I have to turn in soon...damn work in the morning x_x))
<Ethan_SR_DM> ((Yeah...I'm in the same situation
<BelleAnderson> ((So pick it up next week?))
<Warfare> ((Sounds good))
<Skeezix> ((sounds good))
<Skeezix> hehe
<Ethan_SR_DM> Night all

(as an aside to Kagetenshi - I would not call a person who has sincere doubts that their current physical gender matches their mental gender someone who has a perfect hormonal balance... but thats something I would rather not get into)

[Da9iel]

I'd be tempted to say that the quickness, body, and int increases might be completely overshadowed by the whole new body thing. An incremental increase in a stat you already have would be peanuts next to an entire shift in paradigm. A couple of "Gee, I wasn't this quick before"s might be in order, but I wouldn't get too worried about adding too much of a role-playing reaction to it.

[Jason Farlander]

Considering that, with humans, we are dealing with a scale with values ranging from 1-9 (and, well, 10 if you include exceptional attributes), and a range of "normal" values of only 1-6, I think that even incremental changes would be *very* noticeable, considering how much those changes represent in regards to what is possible.

[Da9iel]

Yes! Do notice the changes! Wonder at them and marvel! But if it was my character, I think I'd play it a little too preoccupied to give much thought to going from "typical" to "improved" or "improved" to "superior" etc. That also includes the notion that it is a new body! The physical attribute changes might be hard to distinguish from the physical anatomy changes from the character's point of view. Considering a possible whole new brain chemistry (as hinted at by the crying episode) the int increase my be tough to distinguish as well. As always these are merely suggestions.

If you wanted to play up the attribute increases, as you notice each new improvement, test yourself. Challenge other characters to a chess match (even if you haven't played in years). Go for a run! Race people! I can't think of a better way to test the body than to beat on yourself (or have someone hit you). If you can think of something better, do it, because I'm not trying to endorse masochism. (More powah to ya if ya like it, but not for me.)

[Jason Farlander]

The body attribute is something I think that would reflect an overall sense of feeling healthier and more fit, but not something that could be quantified in the same sense as quickness/running speed. As for the INT increase, the character is rather introspective, so I think a distinct improvement in clarity of thought would be noticed - as soon as the shock/confusion of the whole thing wears off, obviously.

As an aside, since you read through the log - was that actually interesting/entertaining? Its hard for me to judge how people completely unfamiliar with our group would take things like that. Is this something you would like to read again if there are further developments, or would it be better if I were to present such developments in a way that doesnt require that you read through the whole transcript?

[Da9iel]

Yes! Please continue to update us on this very unique plot. I did enjoy reading the log. I'm sure it was even more fun to be a part of it. There's always an element of you-had-to-be-there in any relation of an experience, so if I really got a kick out of it, it must've been a blast to play!

[Crusher Bob]

You may also run into problems relating to changes in your center of gravity and muscle distribution (notice that your legs and hips will have changed shape due to having a new pelvis).

[Da9iel]

Crusher Bob, you should really read the log of the game (in Jason's last spoiler tag). Its fun.

[Kagetenshi]

My only nitpick with the game is that the characters were showing altogether too much knowledge of what the mage was casting (for instance, stunball, stunbolt, manaball, and manabolt probably would have appeared identical to a mundane observer unless there were multiple people in radius and LOS), but that's a matter of individual style. Otherwise, definitely liking it :)

~J

[Belle Anderson]

Thanks for the refresher Jason, :grin: Just what I needed this morning to wake myself up.

Yes this is the same Belle Anderson whose in the group with Jason up there, I finaly got off my butt and signed up.

Belle

[nezumi]

Random question, since he's growing so fast... Would magic prevent stretchmarks?

[Jrayjoker]

I havent seen it mentioned explicitly, so here goes...

There is going to be a psychological break somewhere in the future, and I could see Skye using magic as the one constant that gets her through the pschological transformation that will occur after the phsical changes.

[Kagetenshi]

If there is a psychological transformation. Again, the character is his, but if I were dealing with a real person described as above, I'd think there wouldn't be. At least not in any timeframe reasonable for a Shadowrun game.

~J

[Jason Farlander]

[Jrayjoker]

Ah, the best laid plans of mice and men...

[Kremlin KOA]

You'll find that this will not hace some of the emotional issues of a transgender... Much of the theapy a transgender has to go through has to do ith the inadequicies of the new form... this one wont have these...

[Belle Anderson]