 On the subject os Astral stealth, BBB p.171, last line "Astral perception" |
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 Oct 1 2004, 11:49 PM
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Ain Soph Aur  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600  |
I have been pondering the question of ways to evade notice while astrally projecting, and I read this line in the BBB, p.171:
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So, could we not interpret this as saying that the Stealth skill could be applied to Astrally Projecting characters? Instead of the TN for astral patrols starting at 2 (MiTS p.88), it would start at the Open Test number generated. |
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Oct 2 2004, 12:05 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
That's how I do it.
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Oct 2 2004, 12:19 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
An Astral Patrolling tets really isn't a Preception test though, is it? I don't think Line of Sight is even considered with it, which is a major factor in Perception tests. However, I think the two are somehow connected. Success on an Astral Patrol test alerts the patrolling spirit to an intruder, but doesn't specify where the intrusion took place. Depending on the patrolling spirits command, it may seek out the intruder thus requiring an Astral Perception test (perhaps modified by some of the same affects as Astral Patrolling), or it may more to alert security forces who would also be required to spot the induding astral form.
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Oct 2 2004, 12:28 AM
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UMS O.G. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 444 Joined: 18-May 04 Member No.: 6,335 |
Yeah but against regular people watching, it works quite well. They are just pointing out that the sight component of astral perception works just like normal sight in that regard. It is a free action to notice someone standing across the street unless they are trying to hide from you.
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Oct 2 2004, 01:17 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
I tend to think of astral patrol tests as a role to determine wether you encounter an astral protector. If you do then you still have the possibility that it dose not notice you, use stelth skill for that test.
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Oct 2 2004, 10:15 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The Stealth Skill is certainly usable while Astrally Projecting (or even Perceiving). I believe you can even have Astral as a Specialization of the Stealth Skill.
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Oct 2 2004, 04:22 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
MiTS p.88 "Astral Patrolling"
So yes, K10 and Edward, they know where you are. That's what's been bothering me all this time about astral guards. MiTS says that you start at a TN 2, add modifiers from the table, and roll an Int test. The intruder cannot modify this test in any way, which I think is silly and very bad gameplay. But combined with the passage in the BBB I mentionned above, that TN 2 should instead be the result of the Stealth Open Test. p.s. Nice to see you again, Fortune! |
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Oct 2 2004, 04:34 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Thanks mate. 'Tis good t'be back. :) I have always made the base TN the result of a Stealth roll, modified by the proper effects from the appropriate table, whether on the Astral or not. It just seems reasonable to me, and fits in with the way everything else works. |
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