Tibet, I'm sure it has come up, but.. |
Tibet, I'm sure it has come up, but.. |
Oct 3 2004, 02:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 20-September 04 Member No.: 6,682 |
Okay, Let's start at ground level here.
When was Tibet sealed? What sort of seal? What does it look like from outside now? next-- Tibetian NPCs. Clearly there's some way out, as evidenced by...brainscan was it? What sort of powers would they have? Why is there no mention of buddhism in MITS that I remember, especially with all the emphasis on samurai culture, zen adepts, and ancient mystical traditions? Finally Will it ever be unsealed? And why would Big D have had the "Seal of the Green Gloves" to begin with? |
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Oct 3 2004, 02:57 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Tibet was sealed shortly after the Awakening, and it was described as a mystic barrier...no idea other than that as to what it looked like. The Tibetans appear to control entry and exit from Tibet.
The individual powers of Tibetans depends on magical aptitude, training, etc. Those monks from Brainscan were physical adepts who displayed an unusual variant of the Deadly Hands power. It is likely Tibet holds other mystical secrets as well. Buddhism, like Catholicism, is a many-headed Hydra. Samurai and Zen philosophy are characteristic of the Japanese flavor of Buddhism, while Tibet is a mixture of Chinese and Indian Buddhism, with a few other influences here and there. THe heavy monastic tradtion of the region benefits from that. To answer your question: just as Christianity has no magical tradition associated exclusively with it, neither does Buddhism (that we know of.) Will it ever be unsealed? Maybe. If Lung wanted to crack that particular shell, I think we'd see some fireworks. Who knows how DUnkie got the Seal? Hell, we don't know if it's a magical artifact or just a cultural visa. |
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Oct 3 2004, 03:51 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Just to add, the barrier went up in 2011.
~J |
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Oct 3 2004, 03:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 20-September 04 Member No.: 6,682 |
Right, but Christian magic DID get a wee blurb in MITS. Buddhism, on the other hand, has never been touched outside of brainscan. It just made me deeply suspicious, especially given how purposeful the compilations have generally been. For reference, Shinto _did_ get a blurb, before anyone mentions that limits on its application might have precluded buddhism's presence. Also, Christianity does have a heavy mystical tradition associated with it, often with strong numerological connotations. 2011? that's interesting. And very fast. |
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Oct 3 2004, 04:56 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Many of these questions will be answered in Shadows of Asia. And a few new surprises.
Tibet was sealed just after the Awakening. The Seal of the Green Gloves allows for passing in and out of Tibet, but that doesn't mean it's the only way. |
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Oct 3 2004, 05:51 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Tibet's being covered in Shadows of Asia? Nice. :) You having a hand in that DE- I remember you had some ideas about the place?
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Oct 3 2004, 06:09 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
I am involved in it, yep.
There will likely be more that I want to say than will make print, so eventually there will be even more, one way or another. :P |
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Oct 3 2004, 06:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 20-September 04 Member No.: 6,682 |
:: grins :: and here I was thinking I'd made a mistake starting this topic, and instead we get a goodie!
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Oct 3 2004, 10:01 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
A possibly nuclear Greater Tibet? Oh this should be good. :D
The Dalai Lama back in charge as a possible theocracy. Hhmm, wonder if he's Awakened? Something like his position and possible ED type of ReNaming ritual to make him head of the group like Cybertech mentioned would be a truely evil idea. |
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Oct 3 2004, 10:05 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
You wouldn't need reNaming for that to happen. :P
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Oct 4 2004, 12:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 30-April 04 Member No.: 6,294 |
Psh. He's a great dragon. Deus ex machina incarnate. Take a look at his will some time. The lizard had heaps of fun little toys. As I understand it, the Seal lets you pass through the barrier. Like Demonseed said, not the only way, but probably the best way for a Mundane to get in. (Which corp head has these? Whoever it was hightailed off to Tibet with 'em...) |
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Oct 4 2004, 12:19 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Inazo Aneki, of Renraku.
As for why he has them, my guess is that either he's connected with the people who constructed it, or he's connected with the people who prepared what was needed for its construction in the Fourth World. ~J |
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Oct 4 2004, 07:36 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The question is...who has them now, because I'm pretty sure they aren't in the hands of Aneki?!?
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Oct 4 2004, 02:13 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Presumably either Renraku, the Brainscan runners, Dodger, Ronin, or the remnants of the drone horde.
Edit: that's based on a false assumption, never mind. If Aneki had the seal on him during Brainscan, see above. If not, Renraku or the Tibetans are the most likely, but all bets are off. ~J |
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Oct 4 2004, 02:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 20-September 04 Member No.: 6,682 |
I was under the impression it was like a round trip ticket, and the tibetians had it.
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Oct 4 2004, 02:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
There's no evidence to back that assumption. ;)
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Oct 4 2004, 10:03 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
for that matter, there's nothing that says the barrier around Tibet is two-way. maybe he left them there, not needing them to get out.
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Oct 4 2004, 10:46 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Oh, Aneki needed help to get out...they'd barely managed to re-potty train the poor bastard. Whether anyone else needs the Seal of Green Gloves to get out, well, I dunno.
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