 Elemental Question, What is the best method to use for this? |
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  Oct 3 2004, 05:39 PM
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Situation: Runner mage, locked in an old jail. The bars have been replaced with Plasteel, but that is the only recent upgrade. Mage calls up his force three fire elemental that has been on call one night to melt the bars. Easy enough. So here is my question: What mechanics would you use to simulate this? Does the elemental engulf it, and then just apply spell effects to the barrier? Would it use it's flamethrower repeatedly till they get hot enought to melt? Can a force 3 elemental even generate enough heat to melt Plasteel bars? If we use pure barrier ratings, it would almost take a greater form to melt them. Does anyone have an opinon, or suggestion on this?
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Oct 3 2004, 08:19 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
I say no. You'd need a Thermite Elemental. |
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Oct 3 2004, 08:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 17-November 03 From: Texas Member No.: 5,828 |
I would treat the attempt to 'melt through' the bars as an attack against them. The Fire Elemental has an attack of 1M; it will take a mighty blow indeed for him to even cause minor damage to the bars. (IMO, you would use the OR of the bars, not the barrier rating). I don't think your force 3 will even scratch the bars. If you were encased in something natural, or a cave carved out of a mountain, you'd have a case. But with plasteel and concrete, I would make you get either a much stronger friend, or some good old fashioned plastic explosives.
Edit: Yes, the Fire Elemental will get both a +2 power bonus for flame aura and an 'extra damage' every time it connects of 3M from the aura. Alternately, it could engulf for 4M damage each turn. It could use Flamethrower, but a Force 3 Flamethrower spell won't really scratch the survace of those bars, which have an OR of 8. This post has been edited by Luke Hardison: Oct 3 2004, 08:38 PM |
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Oct 3 2004, 10:02 PM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
What you're looking for are the Barrier rules, on pg 124-5 of the BBB. Since prison bars would count at least as Heavy Structural material, there's no way a Force 3 fire elemental could damage it. If it were normal material, then it'd have a chance.
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Oct 3 2004, 10:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 72 Joined: 12-September 04 Member No.: 6,654 |
Well, I agree with what's been said about your Force 3 fire elemental not being able to do much to plastisteel bars. However, if you ever actually need to get out of a jail like this one, just have your elemental grab the keys once an incompetent guard leaves them lying about. :)
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Oct 3 2004, 10:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 241 Joined: 20-September 04 Member No.: 6,682 |
or burn whatever is holding the bars perhaps.
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Oct 3 2004, 11:05 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 27-August 02 From: Scotland Member No.: 3,175 |
Or burn whoever is holding the keys.
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Oct 3 2004, 11:36 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Or burn the keys.
Hmmmm… ~J |
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