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GlassJaw
post Oct 4 2004, 03:12 PM
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Hey all, I've really enjoyed read the Idiot's Matrix thread (http://forums-temp.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=90&st=0) and was sorry to see it kind of ended abruptly.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in starting a new thread and running me (a Matrix n00b) and my equally newbish decker through a short run.
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Kagetenshi
post Oct 4 2004, 04:02 PM
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Sure, I'll give it a shot. Anything in particular you want to work on?

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post Oct 4 2004, 04:14 PM
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I'm available as well for what ever you need. I'm willing to run a all-decker game in the other thread as a tutorial as well, if that would be desirable.
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post Oct 4 2004, 04:25 PM
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I might even get in on that. I've never been too familiar with the Decker rules. I always knew the basics, but usually worked with an NPC Decker, so never needed the nitty gritty bits. :D
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post Oct 4 2004, 04:53 PM
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I would like to start simple at first if possible. I've only been reading the Matrix rules; I haven't done anything in-game yet although I'm sure I'll have a chance soon. I just figure any time I can get going over the rules the better.

I guess if I had my choice, I would like to do something solo first, then if more people want to jump in after that, all the better. How do runs work with more than one decker anyway?
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post Oct 4 2004, 05:00 PM
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Quite well, providing that they have good DF.

My question is, do you want to try some matrix runs with a preexisting character? Do you want to try specific operations? Start with a character with a Fairlight and see just what that'll get you? Try to see if you can crack a Red-Hard with an Allegiance Sigma and a Skill of 40? That'll let me know whether to set chargen rules and if so what they should be.

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GlassJaw
post Oct 4 2004, 06:17 PM
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My question is, do you want to try some matrix runs with a preexisting character? Do you want to try specific operations? Start with a character with a Fairlight and see just what that'll get you? Try to see if you can crack a Red-Hard with an Allegiance Sigma and a Skill of 40? That'll let me know whether to set chargen rules and if so what they should be.


I want to use the character I'm playing right now. Here's the relevant info:

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Dwarf Combat Decker

Int: 8 (6 + Cerebral Booster 2)
Computer: 6
Hacking Pool: 9 (4 + Math SPU 3 + Enceph 2)
Matrix Initiative: 10 + 3D6 (Int + Pure DNI + Response 1)

Cyberware and Bioware: Datajack, Headware Memory (200), Math SPU 3, Encephalon 2, Cerebral Booster 2

Novatech Hyperdeck-6
MCPC: 6/4/5/5/4
Detection: 6
Hardening: 4
Memory: 500
Storage: 1000
I/O Speed: 240
Response Increase: 1

Analyze 6 108
Armor 4 48
Attack S 6 144
Browse 6 36
Cloak 6 108
Commlink 6 36
Deception 6 72
Decrypt 6 36
Medic 4 64
Read/Write 6 72
Relocate 4 32
Sleaze 6 108
Spoof 6 108

I got a bit of break in that I was able to start with the Cerebral Booster but I'm not starting with the greatest of decks. In-game he's very new to the Matrix and one of his first goals is to upgrade his deck. Thoughts? Questions? Comments?

Edit: My Matrix Init should be 10, not 8. It would be 12 but 10 is the max right?
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post Oct 4 2004, 06:28 PM
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Two comments. One, I'm glad you aren't playing a Validate decker. Those are extremely effective, but they make for very very very poor examples.

Second, since your DF is low remember that you don't have to do everything in one shot. Complete part of your task, get out, wait a bit for things to cool down and then go back for more.

Do you have any specific questions before we get started? (*Draws up some ideas right quick*)

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post Oct 4 2004, 06:38 PM
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One, I'm glad you aren't playing a Validate decker


Well I talked to my GM about and we are kind of staying away from the Matrix at least at first (except for the Pure DNI option).

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since your DF is low remember that you don't have to do everything in one shot. Complete part of your task, get out, wait a bit for things to cool down and then go back for more.


Is there any other way to boost as a starting character? I think it's as high as it can get right now (Sleave 6 + Masking 5 = 5.5 round up).

Also, should I choose what programs I have active? How important (or not) is it to have a high memory so you don't have to swap out programs? Is having to swap stuff a huge disadvantage?
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post Oct 4 2004, 06:45 PM
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There's not really any way to boost your DF in the BBB, but there are some options in Matrix (modes, assigning HP to increase DF, etc).

It can be. Having alot of stuff in memory means you dont have to do Swap Memory ops to load that cloak program you need right now, but it also means that trace IC can find your jackpoint easier (Unless that is also optional Matrix rules, I can't recall.).

If it is an optional Matrix rule, I'd max out active memory.
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post Oct 4 2004, 08:19 PM
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If you ever do get to opening this to other players... *puts in a reservation*
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post Oct 4 2004, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi @ Oct 4 2004, 01:28 PM)
I'm glad you aren't playing a Validate decker. Those are extremely effective, but they make for very very very poor examples.

They are effective but have a definate drawback. They only work as long as the account is validated. Which means they must be "very, very quiet." Its not a bad idea for a part-time decker, as one of my character's is, as its a cheap way to make a moderately effective decker, but if you get the account yanked out from under you, you're pretty much screwed.
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post Oct 5 2004, 12:15 AM
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Do you have any specific questions before we get started? (*Draws up some ideas right quick*)


No, I think I'm pretty much good to go. I guess I would just have to select some active programs but that might depend on where I'm jacking in from.

Actually, one question on swapping programs. If you're not currently in combat but you are in a private network, does swapping utilities create any trouble for you? Can you sit "idle" and swap utils?

For example, you load up your Deception util to logon to the RTG and get inside whatever PTG you are looking for. Once inside, can you swap that out for something else?
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post Oct 5 2004, 03:45 AM
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There's the Swap Memory operation detailed in SR3.

Post what your icon usually looks like, and we can get started.

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GlassJaw
post Oct 5 2004, 04:07 AM
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Post what your icon usually looks like


Oh yeah, almost forgot.

GlassJaw's icon looks like a human male (even though he's a dwarf) composed completely of glass. He wears red boxing gloves and a white hooded robe with blue trim.

When in combat, his attack utility is a devastating uppercut. When attempting to evade or avoid detection, he puts his hood up and over his eyes. When browsing or searching files, he takes off his gloves and hangs them at his side and uses his bare hands. His medic program is a water bottle or a cold compress.

Before he turned to the shadows, he used to fight in illegal underground fight clubs. He would take dives for some Mob Soldiers to earn some cash. Hence the boxer motif.
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post Oct 5 2004, 04:18 AM
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A few notes before we start: we're only going to concern ourselves with the meatworld insofar as it involves reaching jackpoints. If and when we do an onsite decking example we'll do a bit more, but for the most part, if the opposition reaches your physical location you are presumed to be dead. Depending on your arrangements you may do better in an actual game, but for now it's a dangerous world out there. You can, of course, survive tracking by leaving immediately for a different jackpoint.

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post Oct 5 2004, 04:26 AM
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The Man with the Glass Jaw has been called upon by a desperate friend with cred but no other contacts. Not only does this friend's superior have proof of the friend embezzeling money from a small corporation, he has also discovered that this superior has removed him from the promotion computer. He wants you to erase the proof, alter a copy to point to the superior, drop it somewhere where it will be discovered and the supervisor will be unable to erase it, add his name to the promotion computer, and ensure that it is selected. He doesn't know much about the computer system save that it is entirely connected to the matrix save for some backup computers which should not have copies of the incriminating files. He also gives you a password to the building thermostats; this password has no associated username.

You are in your lifestyle. There are doors to the North, South, and East. A window to the West shows a marvelous view of the setting sun. In front of you there is a table with a deck on it, from which a piece of fiber-optic cable trails to a port on the wall.
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post Oct 5 2004, 07:26 AM
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lol...sounds like one of those old text adventure games. Well...guess I should slip into lurker status and let you two be...but I'm here, ready to learn if you need someone to bail your char out. :)
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post Oct 5 2004, 12:42 PM
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You are in your lifestyle. There are doors to the North, South, and East. A window to the West shows a marvelous view of the setting sun. In front of you there is a table with a deck on it, from which a piece of fiber-optic cable trails to a port on the wall.


Am I supposed to go exploring or is this just flavor text? :grinbig:

Otherwise I jack in to the LTG. Are we in Seattle? Do I know the LTG# of the corp?
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post Oct 5 2004, 12:48 PM
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You are in Seattle. A simple search of the directory gets you the public access server LTG#.

Are you logging on through a legitimate connection, or decking in?
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post Oct 5 2004, 01:01 PM
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Are you logging on through a legitimate connection, or decking in?


Umm, I assume decking in. I don't want my actions traced right? Are there any other differences? You might have to walk me through some stuff here.
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post Oct 5 2004, 01:52 PM
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If you're going to be doing some illegal stuff, going in legitimately is bad. That being said, you can sometimes learn valuable info from their public access servers without doing anything actively illegal. Also keep in mind that decking from home can be risky, but the security on the target was not billed as particularly tight. Your choice.

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post Oct 5 2004, 02:05 PM
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Can I get the LTG# from the directory legally? If so, would getting the LTG and checking out the place be bad if I later hack into it? It might be a little more than coincidental that I was looking at it and then it was later hacked. I figure they might check the records of who had logged in previuosly, even if it was legal.

Am I overthinking this?

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Also keep in mind that decking from home can be risky, but the security on the target was not billed as particularly tight. Your choice.


What are my other options? Do I know of any secure locations in the area?

Sorry if this is going a little slow but it's actually very helpful for me. I need to get some background on the "ebb and flow" of the Matrix itself in game terms, not just crunching the numbers.
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post Oct 5 2004, 02:49 PM
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No worries at all. The public access server is the equivalent to a public web site/FTP site nowadays. This particular company isn't particularly large, but it probably still gets a nontrivial number of visitors daily.

Regarding the jackpoint, your other options primarily involve either tapping one yourself, breaking in somewhere (not necessarily the target) to use their access point, or renting one from someone. Roll your starting cash, it might be useful.

With a corp like this, you could probably get away with decking from home if you're careful, but it isn't advisable. Decking from home means that even if you get away cleanly, you lose something if they trace your jackpoint.

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post Oct 5 2004, 03:00 PM
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Regarding the jackpoint, your other options primarily involve either tapping one yourself


Well he has good Computer and Electronics B/R skills so this makes the most sense. So how do I got about setting up an illegal jackpoint? Do I just need a dataline tap?
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