 Damage Code of Boiling Coffee, and the price of the cup to carry it |
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 Oct 9 2004, 09:50 AM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Honolulu, HI Member No.: 6,099  |
Heh. Don't forget to smartlink your coffee cup, to help make staging damage up easier :)
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Oct 9 2004, 11:08 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Keep in mind that 3M Physical is what the average human male (if you go with 3s being average) does with a Short Cougar Fineblade or Vibro Knife. I think killing someone with either of those should be easier than with a cup of near-boiling liquid.
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Oct 9 2004, 10:04 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
What do you sail, Edward? 'Cause I've seen flying jibes in a 37' racing sloop, and I gotta say that's a damn sight higher than Moderate stun... :) |
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Oct 10 2004, 01:17 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
Well I never took hit from the boom of the STS Lewin (she is a fins ship, 3 masts the fore rigged with squares). Mostly mirrors. It has been a long time and I can’t remember the exact length. They are a 2 man dingy (preferably adult and child) the mast comes in 2 parts so all the spars will fit inside the boat. The boom itself was only made out of 2” timber. As a child my parents had a Hartley 16’ trailer sailer. I have also dabbled in cats around the 14’ mark.
A 35’ racing sloop would be far more dangerous Edward |
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Oct 10 2004, 01:32 AM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
Yah, I learned on a boat much like a Mirror. I'd call that a medium stun. :)
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Oct 10 2004, 07:41 AM
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I'd think that boiling hot (as in 212F or 100C, not just really hot) coffee should have a damage code of around 4-6M. Boiling anything is really just nasty and vicious. Done right, or with enough volume, it could be lethal. Also, as a home rule in my game, burns have double the wound penalties. Burns really do hurt WAY more than their amount of trauma would seem to indicate.
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Oct 10 2004, 08:06 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 316 Joined: 18-July 03 Member No.: 4,963 |
Coffee and boiling water came up in my group recently.
We're running semi-legitimately. One suggestion I had was a water cannon loaded boiling water so we could deal with riots very effectively and literally flush people out of buildings. I also wanted a coffee machine in the group vehicle for those long stake outs. We realized we could combine the boiling water cannon with a coffee machine! Instead of all that heat going to waste, it'd all go into our coffee. We could have a little spout on the side of the water cannon that served us coffee while simultaneously inflicting rampant, horrible death on others. Sadly, I wont be allowed to install it out for obvious reasons, so statting it out is a bit of a moot point. Apparently, the 'legitimate' part is more important than the 'semi' part. I'm still going to install a coffee machine. More on-topically, I vote for physical damage, but possibly with a limitation on it that it can't do more than a certain level of damage. It doesn't matter how well you throw coffee on someone, you aren't going to kill them with it without utterly excessive amounts of coffee. It might be best to just treat it as a chemical with a contact vector. This would let many defenses work against it and at the same time not require totally new rules to implement. |
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Oct 10 2004, 12:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
Would magical coffee be a straight up water elemental or toxic? Because the best part of waking up is getting engulfed (and subsequently getting it in every orifice) in hot bean broth.
The only real downside I can see to using hot coffee in a watercannon is that the smell would attract people from miles over. Drive past a Dunkin' Donuts early in the morning, sometime. |
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Oct 10 2004, 02:43 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
A boiling water cannon? Sure you'd end the riot damn quick, but then the lawsuits from all the people you killed/ maimed for life (assuming that people putting down riots on some sort of civil force) would be even more deadly. I'd just say break out the guns.
I also think there's a funny image to be had in the fact that a fineblade in the hands of a salariman can be as deadly as a cup of coffee in the hands of a runner. When all coffee is outlawed, will only outlaws have double lattes? |
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Oct 10 2004, 03:23 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
A salariman, a Face, or a Covert Ops Specialist. |
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Oct 10 2004, 07:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
I'd rule it as BOTH stun and physical damage.
Starbucks Super-Latte (Boiling) Concealibility: N/A (No one cares about coffee) Damage Code: 2M Physical, 5S stun. Range: 2 Cost: 20 :nuyen: (Oh, FYI one Cred is worth about a quarter) |
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Oct 10 2004, 08:48 PM
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Oct 10 2004, 10:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Ahhh, but what is a UCAS dollar worth compared to todays?
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Oct 10 2004, 10:51 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
1 UCAS dollar = n USD.
~J |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Then, I'd love to hear your explanation of how a soy-burger costs 80$ modern.
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Oct 10 2004, 11:12 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Er?
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Oct 10 2004, 11:21 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
1 :nuyen: ~= $5 UCAS
The standard ruling in SR is that cost in :nuyen: ~= current cost in $US. Meaning that the UCAS dollar will be the equivalent of 20 current US cents. |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:28 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
So now the burger is 20$. We have the same problem.
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Oct 10 2004, 11:31 PM
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See. This is why I prefer Nuyen. |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:34 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Right, but when pricing new items you usualy come up with a cost in USD do you not? If we had a real conversion, that'd help pricing.
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Oct 10 2004, 11:36 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,049 Joined: 24-March 03 Member No.: 4,323 |
Hey Herald, did you see that link I provided? In a table about 2/3 down the page it explicitly sets the exchange rate at 4 u$: 1 :nuyen: . |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
I saw a conversion table somewhere, but I don't remember where.
In any case, the GM I have doesn't bother worrying about it. Food is covered in the lifestyle cost, so null sheen. |
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Oct 10 2004, 11:43 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
I thought the original nuyen was supposed to (rougly) equal one current USD. But that was a long time ago...
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Oct 10 2004, 11:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 179 Joined: 9-October 04 From: I'm in Hell! HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!! (A.K.A Alabama) Member No.: 6,739 |
Ok, then what about Custom GM created items selling costs, or any other new cool stuff like that. I'm just using burgers because it's easy.
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Oct 10 2004, 11:48 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
It's 4 now? Ok, where did I read 5...
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