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Oct 11 2004, 08:38 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 6-October 04 Member No.: 6,731 |
i called my girlfriend a chummer, and she thought i was calling her a dirty name... lol
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Oct 14 2004, 10:02 PM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 5-October 04 Member No.: 6,728 |
I like to use the terms while playing other games in general. It gets a lot of question marks on video games. But I love to explain it. Usually with the first line being, "don't worry, I am street sami."
Ohh. . and never call a fisherman a chummer. It does actually mean something to them, apparently. ---------------------- SilverWolf a.k.a. Maverick "Skin head eh? Sounds like its time for the old ONE! TWO!" - "It helps to look in the face everyone one you clean. You have to make sure it isn't the one your supposed to be extracting. (sigh)" |
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Oct 14 2004, 10:09 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955 |
I second Crimson, fuck no. :D
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Oct 14 2004, 10:20 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Winston Salem, NC Member No.: 1,359 |
Yes I use the slang, but not overmuch.
In our group of all American players, it is the foriegn languages that get the blank stares. You know the old saw...Three languages=tri-lingual, two languages=bi-lingual, one language=American? Well like any generalization, it has its exceptions, like me. But it holds pretty true around most of the table. When my character breaks into Spanish or Japanese, I will too, and then have to translate in most cases. I am fluent in Spanish, and stumble along blindly in Japanese, which is considered really odd considering I was raised in Hawai'i. However, this also gives me the option of throwing in Hawai'ian pidgin if my character knows it. Being a kama'aina has its benefits, even if the term haole is also one that fits me. |
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Oct 14 2004, 10:23 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 |
I ran my games in Spanish, so the point is moot. :P
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Oct 14 2004, 11:32 PM
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Indeed. It's explicitly mentioned in Cyberpirates!. |
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Oct 14 2004, 11:40 PM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Chummer is just a replacement for nigger anyway.
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Oct 14 2004, 11:43 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Really? I've seen no implication that it's overused in rap or hip-hop.
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Oct 14 2004, 11:52 PM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
By 2050, it won't be the edgy to say. It will be ubiquitous.
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Oct 15 2004, 09:57 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 278 Joined: 28-September 04 From: The Smoke Member No.: 6,709 |
My group uses it but not much. I tend to use it quite a lot for NPC's and occaisionally for my own characters. I've even used it in real life too, like asking 2nd line support for the 411 on the drekking <insert broken thing here>.
"Hoi Chummer. Tell that Mother-fragging hoop-kissing drek-eating son-of-a-slitch to slot off! Else I'll perforate his hoop! Scan?" :o) |
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Oct 15 2004, 02:32 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I definitely second Adareal. A few of the terms just don't have the right feel; chummer and frag, namely. Frag... It just doesn't have the same sound as its RL equivalent. It's too soft.
Slitch is GREAT, so is slot-off. I do actually use chummer, but I'm starting to use mulchik (Russian for little boy). I found a great online cyberpunk dictionary I'm working on memorizing, and I'm grabbing more and more words from Russian and Japanese as well, along with that fantastic English slang (like the barfly in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). Hey, what was that term for an ork or troll's wart things again? That was in first edition, and for some reason they dropped it. |
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Oct 15 2004, 04:54 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Give. ~J |
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Oct 15 2004, 05:04 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,353 Joined: 5-June 02 Member No.: 2,840 |
I don't usually have my characters use it in the games I play. I like feeling like I'm in an R-rated action movie when I play SR, and language is a part of that (a small part, but an atmospheric part). The shadowslang is just too soft for that purpose usually.
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Oct 15 2004, 06:26 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
(I haven't read enough of either one. There's a fair bit of crossover, of course. In fact, they look identical! Neither one has 'slitch', sorry, but it's a good start.) http://cyberpunks.homeip.net/slang.htm -a bit slow and blue on black! http://www.ssgfx.com/CP2020/slang/ - Yellow on black, much better. You're welcome : ) |
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Oct 15 2004, 07:41 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I was going to say thanks, but I guess since I'm already welcome I don't have to ;)
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Oct 15 2004, 09:00 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642 |
Frell, No!
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Oct 17 2004, 04:59 PM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,428 Joined: 9-June 02 Member No.: 2,860 |
Fuck no. ;)
Too contrived, and I was introduced to SR's slang in the era when DnD was annoying me with its renamed Hell and the Abyss and Devils and Demons (Baator and all that politically correct crap). Combined with input from a gamer's father (who observed that 'shit' and close variations had been part of the English language for centuries), I had no inclination to suddenly start using make-believe curse words. I stick to some SR slang for which there are no contemporary equivalents (Rigger, wizworm, etc.), but not drek, frag, etc. |
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Oct 17 2004, 05:08 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
uh cray frag is used in RL today...
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Oct 17 2004, 05:10 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
With an entirely different meaning.
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Oct 17 2004, 05:16 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
not really it was never said that to frag was to copulate in SR books (unless it was in a novel I haven't read) they just occupy a similar level of vulgarity in their slang forms. and to me at least... to seriously mash somebody with fragmentation weapons is at least as rude as using them to create decendants
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Oct 17 2004, 05:31 PM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I never said it meant to copulate, though IIRC the notes for SR1 did say that it did. However, currently if I frag someone it means that I kill them, not that I leave them without pay and the Yakuza on their tail (not that there's a huge difference).
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Oct 17 2004, 05:40 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
I agree and when I fuck someone i ki... uh never mind :D
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Oct 17 2004, 05:49 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Yorkshire Toxic Zone Member No.: 5,752 |
We throw the slang in from time to time, usually if we're being particularly IC at the time. As a GM i use them with NPCs to give the players a better feel, but we use real swearing as well, because really we can't see words that have been around for centuries suddenly becoming unused within 60 years!
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Oct 17 2004, 06:03 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
I use it sparringly, though mostly only terms that refer to uniquely Sixth World phenomena ("keebs" for elves, "mojo" for magic, etc.). You're already playing a character who's little more than a professional freelance criminal who regularly commits murder. Saying "fuck" and "shit" is hardly a sin in comparison, and profanity *is* one of the hallmarks of the underworld anyway. It's far more a stretch of my suspension of disbelief to believe that all the runners and those they deal with never use profanity, or instead rely on PG-13 kiddie words that are little different than saying "darn" or "shucks." |
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Oct 17 2004, 06:13 PM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
just remember people in the 1600s naughty was a swear word the correct word was naught, old words going away is bad... new words appearing is normal... it's also entirely reasonable that in 60 years time shit and fuck have become so mainstream that they are no longer profanities
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