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> Fragging Drek, Do you actually bother with SR slang?
Do you and your players use SR slang instead of the real-world equivalents?
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post Oct 11 2004, 08:38 PM
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i called my girlfriend a chummer, and she thought i was calling her a dirty name... lol
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post Oct 14 2004, 10:02 PM
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I like to use the terms while playing other games in general. It gets a lot of question marks on video games. But I love to explain it. Usually with the first line being, "don't worry, I am street sami."

Ohh. . and never call a fisherman a chummer. It does actually mean something to them, apparently.

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post Oct 14 2004, 10:09 PM
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I second Crimson, fuck no. :D
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post Oct 14 2004, 10:20 PM
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Yes I use the slang, but not overmuch.

In our group of all American players, it is the foriegn languages that get the blank stares. You know the old saw...Three languages=tri-lingual, two languages=bi-lingual, one language=American? Well like any generalization, it has its exceptions, like me. But it holds pretty true around most of the table. When my character breaks into Spanish or Japanese, I will too, and then have to translate in most cases. I am fluent in Spanish, and stumble along blindly in Japanese, which is considered really odd considering I was raised in Hawai'i. However, this also gives me the option of throwing in Hawai'ian pidgin if my character knows it. Being a kama'aina has its benefits, even if the term haole is also one that fits me.
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post Oct 14 2004, 10:23 PM
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I ran my games in Spanish, so the point is moot. :P
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post Oct 14 2004, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE (SilverWolf_assassin @ Oct 14 2004, 04:02 PM)
I like to use the terms while playing other games in general.  It gets a lot of question marks on video games.  But I love to explain it.  Usually with the first line being, "don't worry, I am street sami."

Ohh. . and never call a fisherman a chummer.  It does actually mean something to them, apparently.

Indeed. It's explicitly mentioned in Cyberpirates!.
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post Oct 14 2004, 11:40 PM
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Chummer is just a replacement for nigger anyway.
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post Oct 14 2004, 11:43 PM
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Really? I've seen no implication that it's overused in rap or hip-hop.

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post Oct 14 2004, 11:52 PM
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By 2050, it won't be the edgy to say. It will be ubiquitous.
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post Oct 15 2004, 09:57 AM
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My group uses it but not much. I tend to use it quite a lot for NPC's and occaisionally for my own characters. I've even used it in real life too, like asking 2nd line support for the 411 on the drekking <insert broken thing here>.

"Hoi Chummer. Tell that Mother-fragging hoop-kissing drek-eating son-of-a-slitch to slot off! Else I'll perforate his hoop! Scan?"

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post Oct 15 2004, 02:32 PM
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I definitely second Adareal. A few of the terms just don't have the right feel; chummer and frag, namely. Frag... It just doesn't have the same sound as its RL equivalent. It's too soft.

Slitch is GREAT, so is slot-off. I do actually use chummer, but I'm starting to use mulchik (Russian for little boy). I found a great online cyberpunk dictionary I'm working on memorizing, and I'm grabbing more and more words from Russian and Japanese as well, along with that fantastic English slang (like the barfly in Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels).

Hey, what was that term for an ork or troll's wart things again? That was in first edition, and for some reason they dropped it.
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post Oct 15 2004, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
I found a great online cyberpunk dictionary I'm working on memorizing

Give.

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post Oct 15 2004, 05:04 PM
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I don't usually have my characters use it in the games I play. I like feeling like I'm in an R-rated action movie when I play SR, and language is a part of that (a small part, but an atmospheric part). The shadowslang is just too soft for that purpose usually.
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post Oct 15 2004, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (nezumi @ Oct 15 2004, 09:32 AM)
I found a great online cyberpunk dictionary I'm working on memorizing

Give.

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(I haven't read enough of either one. There's a fair bit of crossover, of course. In fact, they look identical! Neither one has 'slitch', sorry, but it's a good start.)

http://cyberpunks.homeip.net/slang.htm -a bit slow and blue on black!
http://www.ssgfx.com/CP2020/slang/ - Yellow on black, much better.

You're welcome : )
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post Oct 15 2004, 07:41 PM
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I was going to say thanks, but I guess since I'm already welcome I don't have to ;)

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post Oct 15 2004, 09:00 PM
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Frell, No!
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post Oct 17 2004, 04:59 PM
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Fuck no. ;)

Too contrived, and I was introduced to SR's slang in the era when DnD was annoying me with its renamed Hell and the Abyss and Devils and Demons (Baator and all that politically correct crap). Combined with input from a gamer's father (who observed that 'shit' and close variations had been part of the English language for centuries), I had no inclination to suddenly start using make-believe curse words.

I stick to some SR slang for which there are no contemporary equivalents (Rigger, wizworm, etc.), but not drek, frag, etc.
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post Oct 17 2004, 05:08 PM
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uh cray frag is used in RL today...
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post Oct 17 2004, 05:10 PM
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With an entirely different meaning.

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post Oct 17 2004, 05:16 PM
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not really it was never said that to frag was to copulate in SR books (unless it was in a novel I haven't read) they just occupy a similar level of vulgarity in their slang forms. and to me at least... to seriously mash somebody with fragmentation weapons is at least as rude as using them to create decendants
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post Oct 17 2004, 05:31 PM
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I never said it meant to copulate, though IIRC the notes for SR1 did say that it did. However, currently if I frag someone it means that I kill them, not that I leave them without pay and the Yakuza on their tail (not that there's a huge difference).

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post Oct 17 2004, 05:40 PM
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I agree and when I fuck someone i ki... uh never mind :D
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post Oct 17 2004, 05:49 PM
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We throw the slang in from time to time, usually if we're being particularly IC at the time. As a GM i use them with NPCs to give the players a better feel, but we use real swearing as well, because really we can't see words that have been around for centuries suddenly becoming unused within 60 years!
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post Oct 17 2004, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (spotlite)
We throw the slang in from time to time, usually if we're being particularly IC at the time. As a GM i use them with NPCs to give the players a better feel, but we use real swearing as well, because really we can't see words that have been around for centuries suddenly becoming unused within 60 years!

I use it sparringly, though mostly only terms that refer to uniquely Sixth World phenomena ("keebs" for elves, "mojo" for magic, etc.). You're already playing a character who's little more than a professional freelance criminal who regularly commits murder. Saying "fuck" and "shit" is hardly a sin in comparison, and profanity *is* one of the hallmarks of the underworld anyway.

It's far more a stretch of my suspension of disbelief to believe that all the runners and those they deal with never use profanity, or instead rely on PG-13 kiddie words that are little different than saying "darn" or "shucks."
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post Oct 17 2004, 06:13 PM
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just remember people in the 1600s naughty was a swear word the correct word was naught, old words going away is bad... new words appearing is normal... it's also entirely reasonable that in 60 years time shit and fuck have become so mainstream that they are no longer profanities
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