 Bound in hobbit snot, Are your shadowrun books falling apart? |
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 Oct 12 2004, 12:31 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 16-September 04 Member No.: 6,670  |
My group and I own a libray of shadowrun source from 2nd and 3rd ed. But furthermore, all of our Rifts, White Wolf, Star Trek, Star Wars (d6&d20) and D&D 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Edtion books ARE ALL FINE. The SR books want to fall apart!!! Is this universal?
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Oct 12 2004, 12:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 749 Joined: 22-June 02 From: Parts Without Member No.: 2,897 |
Are your SR books softcover and the other games hardcover? I've found my BBB in particular has begun a serious program of autodefoliation.
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Oct 12 2004, 01:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 486 Joined: 4-August 04 From: Fomorian Wastes Member No.: 6,538 |
I can testify that should never spill anti-freeze on your books unless you like the pages to have the consistantcy of tissue paper.
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Oct 12 2004, 01:24 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
My books have weathered just fine. BBB front cover fell off, but all other pages are in good shape.
~J |
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Oct 12 2004, 01:25 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I've always been extremely careful with my SR3, because of all the stories I've heard, but it is now split in half 4/5ths of the way. The pages aren't coming off, the spine has simply split between pages 174 - 175.
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Oct 12 2004, 01:29 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 16-September 04 Member No.: 6,670 |
All the SR books are softcover, as are most of my books. But onl;y the SR ones want to explode. Maybe to much creativity is crammed into them.
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Oct 12 2004, 01:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 2-August 04 From: South Africa Member No.: 6,531 |
Well My SR3 if going in for its third rebinding soon as the pages are falling out again. My Source books are still in good nik.
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Oct 12 2004, 01:39 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,583 |
yeah...mine definately have begun falling apart. BBB in particular: pages falling out. I'm trying really carefully not to have them tear in half or anything, but that binding is such crap
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Oct 12 2004, 01:54 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
I just coughed up the 8 bucks and had my BBB laminated and sprial bound. Picking CC, MitS, R3r, MM, and Matrix up from Kinkos later this week. I figure if I can spend 30 bucks on a book, I can spend a little extra and make it last forever and most importantly, lay flat! Besides, when you end up buying books that get used 1/100th as much, and pay 4-5 times more, it dosent seem that bad...
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Oct 12 2004, 01:58 PM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,312 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
Same here ... at least with my core rules ... My first M&M and Matrix however lost single pages ... |
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Oct 12 2004, 02:28 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 18-March 02 From: NYC Member No.: 2,407 |
Most of the books have fallen apart, so it's gotten to the point with new ones that, after I read them once or twice, I cut the bind. Not too bad, considering I work part time in a print shop and I can do all the rebinding myself pretty cheap. I wish I didn't have to, but it's worth it in the end...
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Oct 12 2004, 02:40 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,723 |
Huh, I haven't had to rebind anything. I gave my SR3 book to my best friend and purchased a new one recently as it was rather "used" and he couldn't afford to get a copy of the book. I have a majority of what has been printed for the game, and the books that get used a lot are rather weathered.
When Wizkids purchased the game did they aqurie licence to all the old material? Seems to me that they could make some money refitting the old modules to 3rd ed and reprinting them. Has there been an official line on this from the company? |
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Oct 12 2004, 03:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In the shadows of the SK Arcology Essen, ADL Member No.: 1,934 |
The only book where i experience that problem is "Prime Runners". All others are fine.
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Oct 12 2004, 03:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 12-April 04 From: Lacey, Washington Member No.: 6,237 |
What procedures do you guys use to rebind your books? Is it something that can be done without too much effort/money? My Matrix and MitS have been losing pages and it's driving me nuts.
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Oct 12 2004, 03:38 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I went to a library and had mine repaired for a modest fee, 5 dollars.
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Oct 12 2004, 03:46 PM
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Not So Great Dragon Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 59 Joined: 17-February 04 Member No.: 6,087 |
They all are falling apart. I am on my second BBB. The first one came apart within two weeks. I have taking to having my books spiral bound at one of the major office supply houses for about $5. If they do it right it lasts forever, but boy if they do it wrong it is a mess.
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Oct 12 2004, 03:59 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,723 |
"BBB"? Time to dislay a little of my ignorance about the acronyms used around here...
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Oct 12 2004, 04:00 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Big Black Book. Aka SR3, or the main book.
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Oct 12 2004, 05:21 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,723 |
:) Ah, thanks.
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Oct 12 2004, 05:35 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
About 95% of my SR books are softcover, and only really read through once, then shelved or otherwise put away for fast reference or preservation. I also pick up large magazine bags at my local comic shop to preserve them better.
I only open them enough to read, I do not lay them out & smooth out the bindings to make them flat. I try to preserve their intergety as much as possible while still enjoying them. Comic collecting has taught me that. |
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Oct 12 2004, 05:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 156 Joined: 3-July 02 Member No.: 2,929 |
I can't believe somebody admitted to pirating the books in this forum.
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Oct 12 2004, 05:39 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 57 Joined: 16-September 04 Member No.: 6,670 |
I knew I wasn't alone with this problem.
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Oct 12 2004, 06:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 26-February 02 From: UK Member No.: 1,873 |
After my groups SR2 books died a horrible death involving tape and good wishes, I decided to fix that hassle with my 3rd ed stuff. Now I get the books I want, put them in a bag, and leave them. Then I use Plastic Rat's stuff. :D
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Oct 12 2004, 07:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 11-September 04 From: French Runner Member No.: 6,652 |
Sorry , les gars, but I've been collecting Sr books since 1991 from 1st ed to the latest Fanpro books and I'v never had any problems whatsoever. Of courser, as Bookwyrm said, I am a book-freak and I would never flatten a book out to avoird damaging spine and binding. All my books are in pristine condition but I'm the only one reading them, some of my players having their own copies of the BBB (at least, the second ed BBB)...
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Oct 12 2004, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 807 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 6,741 |
I've only had mine a week and one page is wanting to come out already. Soon, I'll buy a new copy and stick it in storage.
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