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[linei]

Are SRM characters allowed to do the same adventure more than one time ?

I got this question from a player who did one SRM adventure, whose team didn't even proceed half way through the adventure before time was running out. Are they allowed to give it another try ?

What's the official policy on that ?

[bitrunner]

The official policy is: NO

Unofficially, it depends on the situation. If you are a GM and you happen to run a table full of complete jerkoffs (hey, it happens) and there is one player that unfortunately got stuck at that table and is really trying hard, but the rest just goof off or otherwise aren't playing the game, but rather talking about other stuff, and as a result they only get halfway through the adventure (and this is taking into account that the GM has tried to keep / get them back on track, has shortened encounters already, etc) before time is up, then i don't think that the good player should be penalized. I would just explain to them what happened and not give them a log sheet (since the log sheet shows some clues about the adventure). Of course, the player really should have excused themselves from that table halfway through the session or earlier if s/he saw nothing was getting done.

It is all situational, so it is hard to make that call, which is why officially the answer is NO.

If you played the mission and didn't finish it because your team "screwed the pooch" and got your butts kicked, and the person you were extracting gets killed, or you loose the datafile you were supposed to get through your own stupidity or carelessness, then DEFINITELY NO. :wobble:

[linei]

Ok, that helps.
Thanks

[Whizbang]

Think we've all seen at least one set of idiots...

[ Spoiler ]

In playing A Dark and Stormy Night at Dragon*Con, we learned that dark, torrential downpour, and only having met your fellow runners over the phone is a recipe for friendly fire. I was smart...cast invisibility, and sat out the initial conflict. Then I thought to use Trid Phantasm to put up a sign saying "(Fixer's name I forgot)'s group meet here".

The GM let it be seen even through the abyssmal conditions, and two of the players didn't get the clue then. They just kept on blasting until eventually they wandered inside and ran into the defenders. They came back out to the bus they had stolen to get to the place (nice tour bus...no clue what it was doing in the Barrens), where the rest of us had gathered and IDed ourselves. I had already accumulated some heavy stun healing up one of the other players they had shot, so they called a cab (bus was temporarily disabled), and headed off to their street doc.

We got the bus going again, and drove around a bit while we recovered, and plotted what next. We stopped to pick up the idiots, and headed back to the site just to see Ares swarming on the place. The idiots decided to go investigate further, getting blasted up again. They then headed off to have hostile words with the fixer...attempting to kill an illusion, and getting killed themselves.

We got back with our fixer, trying to see what could be salvaged from the run. Not much, but the fixer did buy our bus for more than we would have made on the run. Compensation was nice, but would have prefered to complete the run

Perhaps we should have a separate thread for such horror stories...

[CountZero]

[Cranus]

What about GM's? Are they forbidden from participating in adventures that they've ran?

[linei]

[bitrunner]

Linei, as always, brings up the crux of the issue...

Technically, GMs and writers are not supposed to play adventures that they have run/written.

For GMs, if they're lucky, they are near another GM and can take turns running adventures for each other so that no one has to miss out on ALL the adventures, and just "eats" some of them.

With that being said, I think I will risk saying that I think Shadowrun players are cut from a more mature cloth than some other games out there, and are devoted to the game enough to make that distinction between player/character knowledge enough to play the adventures.

When it comes down to it, if people can't play SR Missions because the GM is afraid he can't play them also, then I'm going to look the other way and let him play the adventure with a different group rather than deny a bunch of players being able to play...

Ideally though, i'd like to see GMs attend conventions or game days or even a second gaming group that they can play the adventure as a player first, and then go to their regular gaming group to GM it. Playing it first will also give the GM a little insight as to how certain scenarios can be run when he's reviewing the text later...

Is that "Kerry" (ie wishy-washy) enough of an answer for you?? :P

[Cranus]

Thanks for the answer.