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post Nov 1 2004, 05:26 PM
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And for those Riggers with more money than brains, Dikoted Caltrops!!
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post Nov 1 2004, 07:19 PM
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Personally I thought the APC in Aliens sucked. Never fired a weapon, and after ramming through one garage type door, it was broken.

I'd rake a Rhino myself.
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post Nov 1 2004, 07:27 PM
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Personally I thought the APC in Aliens sucked. Never fired a weapon, and after ramming through one garage type door, it was broken.

I'd rake a Rhino myself.

Oh come on. It had an independently targeting particle beam phalax. VWAP! Fry half a city with that puppy. They had tactical smart missiles, phased-plasma pulse rifles, RPG's. They had sonic electronic ball breakers, they had nukes, they had knives . . . sharp sticks!
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post Nov 1 2004, 10:00 PM
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Yea, all that cool crap and not one once of it got used...not even the sticks!

At least the Sentry guns made it into SR.
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post Nov 1 2004, 10:24 PM
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The Colonial Marine Field Manual Goes into a pretty absurd amount of detail on the APC, including a bunch of variants.

Edit: typo...

This post has been edited by Garland: Nov 1 2004, 10:24 PM
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post Nov 1 2004, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
QUOTE (Bigity @ Nov 1 2004, 07:19 PM)
Personally I thought the APC in Aliens sucked.  Never fired a weapon, and after ramming through one garage type door, it was broken.

I'd rake a Rhino myself.

Oh come on. It had an independently targeting particle beam phalax. VWAP! Fry half a city with that puppy. They had tactical smart missiles, phased-plasma pulse rifles, RPG's. They had sonic electronic ball breakers, they had nukes, they had knives . . . sharp sticks!
:)

Think you forgot Bad Language.

But that did get used....
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post Nov 2 2004, 07:01 PM
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Personally I thought the APC in Aliens sucked. Never fired a weapon, and after ramming through one garage type door, it was broken.

I'd rake a Rhino myself.

Hey, nobody needs a vehicle gun when you have:

Ripley
Gaffer Tape
A rifle
A flame thrower
And a f*** huge athmosphere processor

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Btw. wouldn one of the "Masters" (Mobmaster/Citymaster/...) make a decent base for this vehicle. Didn't seem all that heavily armored watching the hatch.

Birdy
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post Nov 4 2004, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
I meant to comment on this earlier but I completely forgot to.

mrobviousjosh, I'm assuming this is one of your first attempts at creating a rigger. If so, you're making a mistake that a lot of newbie rigger players make... big, bad, armored vehicles are not a good idea for runners. Sure, you'll mow down gangers and standard security forces... but the moment that monster hits the street, gangers and standard security forces are not going to be what you're running into. Lone Star and other corporations will immediately send out its heavy forces and the nearby military base will likely deploy some equal-to-superior firepower the moment they hear about it, especially if it's a former military vehicle.

In essence, it's just going to be a collossal waste of cash for you as it will either be a pretty conversational piece or junk. In the latter case, you'll probably be buried right along with it.

Just a fair warning. I know character concepts like this can be fun, but you might want to try something a little more practical and wait for your GM to make a tank or something available in a one-shot merc scenario or something.

You are quite correct, it's my first rigger but I wanted something different than a flying vehicle which is all I ever hear/see most of the time. Anyway, thanks for the advice.
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post Nov 4 2004, 11:19 AM
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For riggers, my fave vehicle type are relatively cheap "disposable" vehicles. Things like stock Americars painted like taxi cabs, something that can go most places without getting looked at twice and that isn't going to break your heart if it gets shot up or has to be abandoned somewhere. The last rigger I played pretty much used only stolen cars, and I didn't like havong them for more than an hour. Get it, use it, break it or leave it burning. Having a 100K vehicle that you use on most runs is just like begging the GM to take a quarter of your starting money the first time things screw up. But, YMMV.
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post Nov 4 2004, 11:46 AM
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just a minor thing..
"Suncell: 5dp (what, you think they'll recharge this thing at any gas station?)"
beware that it may take a whole LOT of time to refill your apc using suncells..even assuming in SR they get them to 100% efficiency.. :)

and I would advice against it as a) you cannot hide b) you draw a LOT of attention.. if you drive with that in seattle you`ll probably get a phone call from any contact telling you you are live on the trid! :)

tv cameramen, worse than cops, a shadowrunners worst enemy :)

just get a van, max acceleration, get some concealed armor, & a few drones for the heavy work..
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post Nov 4 2004, 12:19 PM
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Suncell is one of the worst things to get... Sun? What sun? Sun in Seattle?
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post Nov 4 2004, 06:20 PM
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A vehicle like my write-up should never be seen in Seattle. It would immediately attract weaponry that would tear it to shreds. Besides, mild overcast works at half power, recharging the whole cell in two or three hours (not rechecking the numbers).
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post Nov 4 2004, 06:27 PM
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Seattle gets tons of sun. Everyone who insists that it's constantly overcast and raining should be put down execution style.
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post Nov 4 2004, 06:30 PM
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I would advice against it as b) you draw a LOT of attention.. if you drive with that in seattle you`ll probably get a phone call from any contact telling you you are live on the trid! :)

I meant to reply earlier, that's so fraggin funny! But, yeah, you're 100% right!
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post Nov 4 2004, 09:18 PM
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Seattle gets tons of sun. Everyone who insists that it's constantly overcast and raining should be put down execution style.

It isn't really their fault. Most people haven't been there, an rely on the description, most of which seem to push the misty and rainy elements. In reality, Seattle is a pretty nice city, with a relatively temperate climate and a little larger than average chance of rain.
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post Nov 4 2004, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Doctor Funkenstein)
Seattle gets tons of sun. Everyone who insists that it's constantly overcast and raining should be put down execution style.

:D
Don't you know man? It's all Global Warming and the Great Ghost Dance that screwed it the weather. Now it always rains in Seattle. Of course, it doesn't matter to runner who can't take their pimped out tanks onto the streets until night anyway...
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post Nov 5 2004, 12:08 AM
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Who needs a tank or APC chassis? Just fit four points of concealed hardened armour onto a regular vehicle and nothing short of a shotgun or sport/sniper rifle is going to be able to scratch you without anti-vehicular ammunition. Add another point and it's rifles only and is a hell of a lot more inconspicuous than a tank. :)
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post Nov 5 2004, 01:49 AM
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Now if there was only a way to have a concealed pop-up naval cannon turret....
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mrobviousjosh
post Nov 6 2004, 08:44 AM
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QUOTE (FlakJacket @ Nov 4 2004, 07:08 PM)
Who needs a tank or APC chassis? Just fit four points of concealed hardened armour onto a regular vehicle and nothing short of a shotgun or sport/sniper rifle is going to be able to scratch you without anti-vehicular ammunition. Add another point and it's rifles only and is a hell of a lot more inconspicuous than a tank. :)

The tank just looks so fraggin cool... :(
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