 Drone Rules, Issues of Armor |
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 Nov 14 2004, 02:52 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 6,826  |
How do you handle armor on drones? Do you treat it as vehicle armor, or normal armor?
*** If this has been asked before, if someone would be so kind as to send me the link, I would apprecaite it. |
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Nov 14 2004, 02:58 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Depends. There are two types of armor in the Customization section.
I believe, unless it says otherwise, it's vehicle. |
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Nov 14 2004, 02:59 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,999 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Vehicle, 'cause that's what it is. Personal armor is listed separately.
~J |
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Nov 14 2004, 03:05 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 14-November 04 From: Atlanta, GA Member No.: 6,826 |
I wondered. I tried with just normal armor and the players were going to crunch those like popcorn.
Thankx... We were thinking vehicle. |
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Nov 14 2004, 06:10 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
oh its most definetly vehicle. alltho unless you pile on that armor you still risk seeing some of them go pop every time someone looks at them funny...
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Nov 14 2004, 06:15 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
The peculiar thing is that you can usually cram a lot more armor on a smaller drone than you can a larger one due to the math they use for the armor's weight.
Take these as an example, and keep in mind that I'm just going with maxed barebone chassis and EFC power plants here: A Small Tracked Crawler (Body 1) can handle up to 70(!!!) points of Vehicle Armor whereas a Medium Tracked Crawler (Body 2) can handle only 35 points worth. Sure, both are going to drive the Handling to unmanagable extremes, but the point stands nonethless. I always found that kind of odd. :) |
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Nov 15 2004, 03:09 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
Bah, handling is only important if you want it to move. 8)
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Nov 15 2004, 04:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 6,700 |
the armor rules are more than a bit dodgy... I find myself having to houserule it by taking a look at what can be done in RL now every time the rigger picks up rigger3 and starts twinking out his drones.. :( I dont remember it being so complex in sr2.. riggers, given enough $$$ can be more complex than deckers..
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Nov 15 2004, 06:07 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
Riggers are easily more complex than deckers when you create one (or modify the vehicles). But when running as simple combat they are simpler (just) and they cant perform MIJI when fighting (unless they have the drones control themselves).
True they can get obscenely complicated. Edward |
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Nov 15 2004, 06:28 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
personal armor is also a really nice thing to slap onto vehicles and drones. sure, it's only half as effective against anti-vehicular armor, but it also doesn't slow your vehicle at all, and it's not detectable.
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Nov 15 2004, 06:30 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
I just rule that the max armor a drone can have is body x4 or body x3.
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Nov 16 2004, 04:35 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,999 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Not that more than that is usually needed :)
~J |
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Nov 16 2004, 04:40 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,458 Joined: 22-March 03 From: I am a figment of my own imagination. Member No.: 4,302 |
Who needs handling with scads of armor? You just crash into anything in your way, and shrug it off... :D |
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Nov 16 2004, 05:28 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Validating Posts: 7,999 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,890 |
Oddly enough (or perhaps not so oddly), you need a good Handling *to* crash into something. :D Well, unless you're clever and, after seeing your Handling score of 20, announce "Okay, I'm going to try to navigate RIGHT past that car over there... and in no way whatsoever do I want to hit it. That would be bad."
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Nov 16 2004, 06:50 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,999 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
"Hmm... it's dark, I've got Serious Stun and Serious Physical and Low Pain Tolerance and got pepper-sprayed and I've got a bright flashlight in my eyes that isn't reflecting back into the darkness and it's hailing and there's heavy smoke and the opponent is invisible and moving 200 meters per turn…
I aim at everything but them!" ~J |
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Nov 16 2004, 12:46 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 1-March 04 Member No.: 6,112 |
:rotfl:
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