Ranger X bows and arrows, Partial retraction of previous opinion Options

[Botch]

A little while back Zenmaxxor, AE and myself had a quiet little chat about bows, obsidian heads and arrow weight. I stand by what I said when applied to bows in general in SR, but no longer for Ranger-X bows.

I really should have read the fluff about it. It specifically states that this bow is of SOTA materials and designed to work with a Ranger-X arrow. This arrow is constructed from specialist polymers to form a more rigid and lighter arrow. The arrow itself is described as traveling faster and further.

After checking the damage/range tables I found that this is not the case in my version of the book. Has it been erata-ed anywhere?

MPO - The range of a Ranger-X should be 20%-25% longer than an equivalent STR bow and +1TN# penalty for using the RX bow with any arrow other than a RX arrow. Due to the much lighter weight of RX arrow, none of the specialist super-heavy arrows we chatted about would work without additional accuracy/power problems.

Thank you.

[DrJest]

I think that my major issue with the whole Ranger-X business is that it is completely unnecessary. The compound bows we have right now can be acquired in really quite insane poundages (evil looking techno-bastard things they are, too, like terminator skeletons), and the arrows are of truly negligible weight. And contrary to popular belief, the heavier bows are not necessarily better for the task overall.

There's a rather good American bow hunting site that covers this here . To quote one small section:

[Botch]

The important part in that quote is

[Demosthenes]

[Kagetenshi]

I would contend that the article is semantically incorrect, and that it must shoot arrows which are very stiff, and that with today's technology that inescapably leads to arrows which are heavy. This interpretation would allow advances to lead us to the Ranger-X.

~J

[Botch]

Although in RL it is more correctly

"Have the stiffness and weight suitable for the poundage."

After years spent on the archery field I would love somebody to show me how a 45lb field bow can be as accurate or have as long a range as a 86lb compound bow.

Historically, if you were going into battle with a 70lb longbow people would be asking which debilitating illness you had suffered from to still be using a "kiddie's" bow.

Also from the same refence site quoted

[Demosthenes]

The article may indeed be semantically incorrect - indeed, it almost certainly is. I was merely commenting on what it said, rather than whether it was right or not.

[Sarky]It seems to work fine for interpreting SR rules...[/Sarky]

[Botch]

You put an incorrectly worded document (that has little internal consistency) in as a rationale for a missing SR rule? :eek:

[Demosthenes]

Ahem...no.

[derail thread]
I noted that the WORDING of the document was perfectly consistent with a certain meaning. Whether or not that meaning had any bearing or not upon common sense, or indeed reality, was not the point.

I meant to imply, by analogy, that this is *cough*occasionally*cough* the case with the rules of Shadowrun.
[/derail thread]

Move along. Nothing to see here. Just someone with too much coffee and no sense of humour... :talker:

[Botch]

Move along. Nothing to see here. Just someone without coffee and no sense of humour...

um,


sorry. :dead:

[Demosthenes]

[Botch]

Sorry, again. I've only just noticed that it wasn't you who actually posted the link.

:dead: Quick, men pass the gallon of coffee I think we've got some problems heading our way. :eek: