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What's the best weapon type (in your opinion)
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KaOs
post Dec 12 2004, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (kevyn668 @ Dec 12 2004, 02:41 AM)
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Personal favorite is an extendable pole-arm. Looks like a walking staff, acts like a walking staff, juts out and is able to keep the trolls at bay after the late night run when you really just want to get back to your doss and sleep.

Which book is that in? No one thinks its odd that you have a halberd blade on a 45cm stick?

Remember, it doesn't have to be a large blade, or even a blade to count as a pole arm. My elf's only has a leaded weight on the end. Looks like a walking stick with a nob on top. A 10 pound nob of steel and lead.

And as for book. I have no idea. You'd have to ask the GM as I never saw the rules for it.
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post Dec 12 2004, 07:55 AM
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10 lbs?! omgwtfmate?
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post Dec 12 2004, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
10 lbs?! omgwtfmate?

What? Sound a little too heavy or a little to light?

If it sounds light, go out and buy one of the little 5 pound metal had weights that is sold just about everywhere. Now drop it on your foot. Now imagine something twice that heavy being expertly weilded against your head.

If you think it's too heavy, well, there's not much I can say about that. It's not bad, but I'd hate to have to keep up combat with that for long. Luckly for unsuspecting street punks combat only lasts for a few seconds.
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post Dec 12 2004, 08:37 AM
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Way too heavy. Claymores didn't even weight half that, on average, and 10 lbs of steel on the end of a stick looks ridiculous and moves about as gracefully. It's a precisely ridiculous weapon.

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post Dec 12 2004, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
Way too heavy. Claymores didn't even weight half that, on average, and 10 lbs of steel on the end of a stick looks ridiculous and moves about as gracefully. It's a precisely ridiculous weapon.

"Don't you understand?! With gravity defeated, now we can fly!"

Not that I claim to be an expert about it, but if you managed to keep the end fairly small (use a dense metal) then wielding it wouldn't be much of a hassle. You'd have to do wide swings and basically treat it like a staff.

Ever play Soul Calibur 2? I kinda pictured the fighting something like kilik does, with long swinging and good balance to off set the weight being swung around.
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post Dec 12 2004, 08:53 AM
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A good sword is strong but lightweight, period.

Balance can make up for much, but doesn't make up the fact that you are having to wield an ungainly weapon.
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post Dec 12 2004, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (FrostyNSO @ Dec 12 2004, 03:53 AM)
A good sword is strong but lightweight, period.

Balance can make up for much, but doesn't make up the fact that you are having to wield an ungainly weapon.

Yeah, but if we dig up the past a little, the Maul was a freaking heavy weapon. Normaly on par wit the length of polearms it was basicly a heavy axe on the end of a pole. That I could see being ungainly but I'm guessing they weight 20lb+.

I can't see 10 pounds as being much of a weight to fling around. From what little martial arts trainging I've had (so, so long ago) I did use a Bo, and I was pretty good at keeping that thing moving fluidly, and that's when I was 8.

Edit: Oh... I was checking around the net trying to learn more about this, not beliveing that 10 pounds on the end of a staff would be that hard to play with, but after looking around and the heavy mauls I was talking about topped out at around 12 pounds for the larger ones.

Guess I've gotta redo that weapon then. 5 pounds it is then. Still weighty enough to damage a trolls head, but not enough to toss the elf weilding it off balance with every swing.
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post Dec 12 2004, 10:31 AM
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The staff itself is, what?, maybe 3-4 pound by itself, adding a 10 pound weight on the end makes the point of balance, well not at all.

A 4 pound staff with a 5 pound top weight and a 3 pound bottom weight should produce a reasonably balanced weapon, except that it weights in at a very hefty 12 pounds.

To be able to make it appear to be a walking stick (i.e. occasionally swing it lightly with a single wrist and not have it go thunk when it hits the ground are going to be quite hard.
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post Dec 12 2004, 01:19 PM
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my favorite would have to be pistol. nothin' sez lovin' than a good 'ol hand cannon. quite specifically a gyrojet pistol.
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post Dec 12 2004, 01:20 PM
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Some medieval weaponry glossaries defined the maul as "A specialized, extremely heavy hammer-like mace used occasionally by English knights, particularly during the Hundred Years War." The only weight values for a maul that I could find were from some medieval recreation forum ("slightly heavier than a tetsubo", which then means somewhere between maybe 8 and 12lbs), and from a GURPS unofficial online expansion which put the weight of a maul as 12lbs -- but that source also places halberds at 12lbs, while it's unlikely that halberds weighing over 10lbs were used in combat much.

In other words, mauls used in combat may have weighed 10lbs but absolutely not 20lbs, not even close.
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post Dec 12 2004, 03:33 PM
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Posted on Dec 11 2004, 10:33 PM

I bearly use the di-coated knuckle dusters or +2 powerness.


Of course not. :)


You end up killing people with stun damage aswell :P

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Posted on Dec 11 2004, 11:57 AM



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No ones mentioned knuckles?

A) I don't hit as hard as an Ork enforcer so I'm not going toe to toe

B) I might chip a nail.


:rotfl: I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. Good one!


Same :)

As for the helbard/stick, being sat here with a 2.5KG (~5lb) dumbell in my hand I imagen that shaped right is just as effective as twice the weight (eg. you can use a sledge hammer to hammer nail in but....), the 10lb top will be too big to look right for a walking stick if you ask me.
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post Dec 13 2004, 05:52 AM
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I run with an Assault Rifle with underbarrel grenade launcher... Ain't much I can't do with that!

Of course, it has its limits, especially in close quarters, but ever since a ghoul-hunting trip, it replaced the Heavy Pistol as my favorite firearm.

Melee, I'd go with Bo Staff.

Yeah, I know, I like weapons that require a good amount of space to use.
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post Dec 13 2004, 08:36 PM
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Explosives. Not because they go boom. But beccause they are versitile. Combat, traps, demolitions etc.. Ever need a door? Want a new skylight? Security gaurds aren't paid to deal with this crap.
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post Dec 15 2004, 10:09 PM
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Ok so I have been awol for a few sorry.

as to my choice of weapon I assumed seeing as it is so long that it naturally was made in sections so disguiseing it would work.

Now appearentlly I am wrong in this matter it would seem a nodachi is made in one peice.

still I like the nodachi and as I said that is my weapon of choice for melee Pistols are my firearm of choice.

Although I have made weapon specialists in the past who use just about every type of weapon so no real I must use this weapon or I am not playing type thing for me.
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post Dec 15 2004, 10:13 PM
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My favs:

pistol (versatile, easy to conceal)
stungloves (for that extra umph to your punches)
shotgun (versatile and has the great intimidation factor when you load up)

...and for my off the wall projectile adept... the slingshot!
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post Dec 16 2004, 04:34 AM
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Pistols, SMGs, and Assault Rifles, oh my! - When your GM won't let you buy LMGs (unless you find them in the course of an adventure) and you want to dish out large quantities of Return Fire. Accept no substitutes.
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post Dec 16 2004, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE (KaOs @ Dec 12 2004, 03:59 AM)
QUOTE (FrostyNSO @ Dec 12 2004, 03:53 AM)
A good sword is strong but lightweight, period.

Balance can make up for much, but doesn't make up the fact that you are having to wield an ungainly weapon.

Yeah, but if we dig up the past a little, the Maul was a freaking heavy weapon. Normaly on par wit the length of polearms it was basicly a heavy axe on the end of a pole. That I could see being ungainly but I'm guessing they weight 20lb+.

I can't see 10 pounds as being much of a weight to fling around. From what little martial arts trainging I've had (so, so long ago) I did use a Bo, and I was pretty good at keeping that thing moving fluidly, and that's when I was 8.

Edit: Oh... I was checking around the net trying to learn more about this, not beliveing that 10 pounds on the end of a staff would be that hard to play with, but after looking around and the heavy mauls I was talking about topped out at around 12 pounds for the larger ones.

I have one word for you, torque. The effective weight of the head is multiplied by length of the pole. Generally, a mace or warhammer will only have a 3 pound head. Any heavier and it will be too tiring to wield in battle. Because the pole acts as a force multiplier, you don't need much weight.


As for favorite weapon type, launch weapons. It's the weapon skill that lets an otaku kick hoop with the best of them.
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post Dec 16 2004, 06:31 PM
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Sorry E.O.T.L.F. but the whole idea seemed so ridiculas it needed zealous ridicule and makes as much sense as an extendable rifle barrel.
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post Dec 16 2004, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (iPad)
Sorry E.O.T.L.F. but the whole idea seemed so ridiculas it needed zealous ridicule and makes as much sense as an extendable rifle barrel.

Well... actually........ as long as it was a memory metal that under constant pressure deformed, and upon the release of that constant pressure resumed its original shape... you could stuff the end telescopicly down it, and have it work for fireing when extended... Problem is memory pliables like that, tend to be extremely fragile to sudden impact, and it might quite possibly shatter when you fired your first shot.
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post Dec 16 2004, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
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Sorry E.O.T.L.F. but the whole idea seemed so ridiculas it needed zealous ridicule and makes as much sense as an extendable rifle barrel.

Well... actually........ as long as it was a memory metal that under constant pressure deformed, and upon the release of that constant pressure resumed its original shape... you could stuff the end telescopicly down it, and have it work for fireing when extended... Problem is memory pliables like that, tend to be extremely fragile to sudden impact, and it might quite possibly shatter when you fired your first shot.

So it still makes no sense :E

That and I figured there will be some hi tech ways, which have no practicle point considering the sheer cost. ie. Billions of ¥ for something that cant recoup its RND and build costs.
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post Dec 17 2004, 12:20 AM
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Anyone remember "Johnny Mnemonic?" What would the stats be for that sword his bodyguard used. (I like to call it the "CoilFoil" or "thingy").
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post Dec 17 2004, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (kevyn668)
Anyone remember "Johnny Mnemonic?"

I try not to.
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post Dec 17 2004, 12:56 AM
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C'mon, it was entertaining.
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post Dec 17 2004, 01:30 AM
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The main downside to shotguns is no silencers or sound supressors.

I find in many of the games I have played recently a pistol just about can't hurt anyone, so I have been driven toward SMG's when I intend to actually fire my gun regularly. One 5 conceal one, and another with all the recoil comp. Need to be able to lay a full 14D smackdown from time to time.
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post Dec 17 2004, 01:35 AM
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Shotguns can be suppressed...
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