maps or prints, where can i find some already made? |
maps or prints, where can i find some already made? |
Dec 12 2004, 01:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 25-November 04 Member No.: 6,848 |
i was wondering, where can i go to find already made floor plans and layouts for buildings?
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Dec 12 2004, 01:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
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Dec 12 2004, 05:35 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
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Dec 12 2004, 10:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 369 Joined: 1-September 03 From: New York State Member No.: 5,563 |
I'd like to address this issue, and this is not the 1st time I've done it.
Let me start by saying that I absolutely suck at maps. Not just a little, a lot. What I'd really like to see from Fan Pro is a book about the size of SoE with nothing but maps. Don't need plot hooks. Don't need average employee/patron stats. Just maps. However not maps of apartment or houses. I find that almost any one can do that. What I need maps of (and I don't think I'm alone here) are of large buildings and facilities. I need a map of an oil refinery, large research center, hospitals, prisons, factories, malls, etc. I see simular threads like this about every other month and they never get very big but they are almost always here. I don't even think the project would be hard to do. Just collect a number of existing buildings blue prints and you have your 20-30 :nuyen: book. Come on people lets put the pressure on Fan Pro or who ever to make a book of maps for modern/future eras. You know what? I want this book so bad I'm gonna make it my crusade to get it published. Who's with me? What maps do you want to see in this book? Lets get this done!!! Thank you for your support, Thanos |
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Dec 12 2004, 10:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
Maps I'd love to see:
Medical Clinic Cleaning company headquarters Junkyard Sewer system Water drainage system Lone Star station Low security prison high security prison Bioresearch facility Mechanic's shop Assorted retail shops Squatter buildings JaronK |
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Dec 12 2004, 10:57 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,326 Joined: 15-April 02 Member No.: 2,600 |
I like making maps, personally. An easy way to make a good looking map is in Paint. Start out with a black field, and then make a lot of overlapping green boxes about five pixels wide. Then paint over everything in the middle, so you just have the outline. Then go back with lines three pixels wide to fill it out with rooms and hallways. I usually use the big eraser as a meter (this works for most moderate sized buildings that will fit on one sheet of paper), so three of those for most main halls, two for smaller, etc. Stick doors on. (You can do this in b&w too to make it easier to print out, but just like the way the black and green looks).
But my main source for maps are the "internets". Real world layouts (convention centers, hotels, hospitals, etc) are all generally available, and real-world maps just look more, uh, real for some reason. |
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Dec 12 2004, 11:08 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
junkyards are easy.
get a lot of toy vehicles. throw them on the ground. You're done. |
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Dec 13 2004, 06:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 180 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,722 |
Thank for the link folks.
Cheers QM :grinbig: |
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Dec 13 2004, 09:02 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 19-October 04 Member No.: 6,771 |
I agree on this crusade, i would love to see a book dedicated to maps for all those places that only the 2060's provide.
Magical research facility Biotech research Cyberware clinic Bioware clinic Lone Star station And even the normal places like bars or clubs... maybe some obscure places too. Any and all would be good. |
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Dec 13 2004, 10:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Orlando FL Member No.: 2,915 |
I have created full maps of a research facility in the Shadowrun Missions adventure FORCEd RECON. Just go to the Shadowrun website and download the Playing Aids package. I even have maps for different levels of recon, including overhead drones and astral. If you want more detail, you have to download the adventure too...
haven't had anyone ask for a junkyard before, but i have one of those - with a large circular area in the center for an ambush...er, meeting spot.... |
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Dec 14 2004, 01:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
Well, with a Junkyard, you can have what's in what area, including squatter nests and such.
JaronK |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:23 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 5-December 04 Member No.: 6,869 |
In the the spirit of this topic, what are some good map making programs?
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Dec 14 2004, 03:41 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
AutoCAD is decent. Vectorworks also works nicely, and has a lot of pre-made furniture templates.
~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 02:27 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 90 Joined: 26-February 02 From: In the shadows of the SK Arcology Essen, ADL Member No.: 1,934 |
I can help you with that. Made one myself with MS Visio. Here you find the tool to view them. Visio Viewer Its in german, but im sure there is an english version out there. |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Orlando FL Member No.: 2,915 |
i like Visio - but as it was discussed on previous threads, the $300+ price tag is high...
very easy to use basic functions though, drag-n-drop, premade objects for a lot of stuff - i used a lot of the vehicles for the junk yard, just stacked them on top of one another. there is also a special template for warehouse process planning, so there are forklifts, cranes, 55-gal drums, wooden palattes, etc. makes warehouses a snap. the rest is for office buildings, and there are keyboards that you can drop for terminals (i just draw a thin rectangle for an LCD monitor), cubicles, coffee machines, etc. |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
I have to agree with you on this. I use Viso every day at work as well as for personal stuff at home. The greatest thing about visio is the fact that it has a huge library of template items to use for layouts and the such. Want to build a room, then just drag the walls over to your paper, and add then add the doors. It even lets you know the square footage as you design. The price tag seems a bit high, but compaired to other programs about norm. But the greatest draw is that anyone can use it in just a few minutes. IMHO |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Orlando FL Member No.: 2,915 |
yeah - i was lucky in that as a network admin, it was purchased for me...but i loved it so much i saved up and bought a copy for home...
btw, as mentioned, there are lots of stencil packs that it comes with, so you can do a lot more than just floorplans. you can make matrix maps, road maps, treasure maps, electrical circuits, etc... everything is scaled properly when you drop stuff, and you can do stuff in metric or english. i just wish there was a company or two that made more stencils!! i found one once that was awesome - it did crime scenes, and it had drops/trails of blood, butcher knives, cleavers, and a pose-able body that you could even take limbs and the head off! unfortunately, it doesn't work with the newer versions of Visio (it was for version 5)... sure, you can make your own stencils, but that requires a little more skill, and takes the fun out of the drag-n-drop stuff... |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:53 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 369 Joined: 1-September 03 From: New York State Member No.: 5,563 |
Yeah. Thats all well and good for someone who can spend the 300 :nuyen: on a computer program for a game. But for those of us who don't have such liquid assets it's not much good.
Here's are some more reasons why I particularly wants maps in a book. I draw a map of... oh say an office building. Now technically I'd just draw a lobby and then a standard floor that can be used for any floor. It looks crappy but serviceable. Then I notice no bathrooms. Opps. Oh, forgot a stairwell. And on it goes. It's just a mess. God forbid I try something like a research facility. Because I've never been to one and have no idea what it would be laid out like. I guess it boils down to not just maps but maps that make sense and are some what realistic. OHH! A map of a wharf or docs would be pretty snazzy too! Thanos P.S. I haven't even begun to address the time issue. |
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Dec 14 2004, 05:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Orlando FL Member No.: 2,915 |
OK, just because i like you guys so much, i've posted a couple of maps and previews for you to download for your personal use...
i have a little of everything, just to show you what kind of stuff i can do, or have access to people that can do it for me...if you would like anything special done, such as maps for a particular building, let me know... i have: AK-47 rifle Albatross Drone Aztech Quarter street map (around pyramid) Basement of Huitzilopochtli Plaza (across from pyramid) Executive Apartment Computer system for above Executive Luxury Condo (PC and GM) Repeater Drone Luxury Estate (PC and GM, multifloor) Denny Park map GMC Bulldog Engineering Corp facility Jungle Research Compound Junkyard Launch Pad (nightclub) Mafia Warehouse Mitsuhama Warehouse Mitsuhama secret Puyallup facility Museum Once Upon A Time (Medieval Theme Park adventure) Parking Garage Prairie Cat (mobile cyberware clinic, complete with dead body) Respirator/Gas Mask Rigger Hangout/HQ Salish Map of Luxury Estates (on peninsula west of Puget Sound) Seattle Center map Sewer Grid map (of Aztech Pyramid area) Snohomish farm map Underground Lab University Lab Vinny (dwarf mafia enforcer - PC pic) Volkswagon Superkombi Transport Generic Warehouse all of this can be found at Bitrunner's Shadowrun Stuff Many of these maps are from adventures - the adventure text has detailed information in some cases on what is in each room, etc. If you're interested in any of this stuff (the adventures, etc), you can send me a PM.... |
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Dec 14 2004, 06:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 369 Joined: 1-September 03 From: New York State Member No.: 5,563 |
Bit you da' man!!!. This is a great start. If we can't have a book how about a permanent thread in the community projects area? <coff>adam jury<coff>
Don't get me wrong a book would be better but this is a good start. Thanos |
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Dec 14 2004, 06:29 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
*Gasp* Bit is da man?
DOWN WIT' DA MAN! ~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 06:35 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 18-October 04 From: Tujunga, CA Member No.: 6,768 |
You know what would be cool.
D&D had this city generator a long time back. It would be great if in this great big book of maps we could have a building generator. One building hardly belongs to one person. What is on the other floors? What if my players just deside to start searching other places? How meny people are in this place, what does the news report say the death count is when the players blow the place up? Well I would think it was cool. |
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Dec 14 2004, 06:36 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
If you're morally flexible you can find Visio at suprnova....
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Dec 14 2004, 06:40 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
If you're morally flexible you can also get more powerful programs, so that's neither here nor there.
~J |
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Dec 14 2004, 07:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 496 Joined: 28-June 02 From: Orlando FL Member No.: 2,915 |
Kagetenshi, thanks for the love, omae! :)
I created an office bulding called Huitzilopochtli Plaza that is owned/operated by Aztechnology and is across the street from the pyramid - they lease out the office space, and it includes apartments for executives as well. i at least did a breakdown of the floors and which elevators go to which floors...that would be a start i think...if anyone wants it... btw, i did take a look at some software that they had at Gencon Indy that was for creating nice maps, and they said they were working on a sci-fi pack that would work for Shadowrun...i'll have to find the brochure and check up on them... |
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