Guns...., What's the date |
Guns...., What's the date |
Dec 13 2004, 06:12 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Wichita Falls, Tejas Member No.: 6,872 |
Okay on some of the guns they give a production date...but how about on the others. Is there a list on the net somewhere with this info availible? I'm gonna run a game set in the 50's. I just need dates. PLZ HLP.
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Dec 13 2004, 06:31 PM
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Old Man Jones Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,415 Joined: 26-February 02 From: New York Member No.: 1,699 |
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Dec 13 2004, 06:44 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
IMO, not worth the effort of thought. 2050 is only 10 years back, you can probably assume all the guns are there.
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Dec 13 2004, 06:50 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
No smartlink 2s, I think gas vents were capped at 3, but not a whole lot else different. If the exact model in CC has too new of gadgets, don't use that one but allow a previous model of the same line and rip the price off one of the guns that is allowed. Maybe just subtract 1 from any numbers in the names of the weapons if you need more of a change.
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Dec 13 2004, 06:50 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
There is no such list for SR weapons that I know of. If it's really important to you, you can browse through the sourcebooks which have the gear and if any weapon is described as being SOTA or the text otherwise implies that they are new in the 2060s, they probably weren't there in the early 2050s. Or you can just get rid of all the gear you simply don't want in your games, saying that they are newer inventions.
[Edit]Herald has good points. I never played 1st and 2nd Ed SR, so I wouldn't know, really.[/Edit] |
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Dec 13 2004, 07:33 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Wichita Falls, Tejas Member No.: 6,872 |
cools thx pplz. I'm away from the books and i'm lazy. :doing research for gaming instead of studying for final exams: College is great.
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Dec 13 2004, 08:08 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
Easier solution would be to just grab copies of the First edition rules, SSC, FoF and CC and do a quick comparison. CC is newer than FoF is newer than SSC is newer than First edition.
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Dec 14 2004, 06:35 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
I like to start campaigns early, around 2050-2055. It makes the players earn all the new high-tech stuff, as opposed to just starting with it.
For my reference points of when things first came out in the Shadowrun timeline, I use the appropriate sourcebook, and look for the time/date stamps of the comments. For instance, the Ingram Smartgun, which first came out in the Street Samurai Catalog, has comments with the date of 12/19/50. So I just figure it came out a little before the catalog was printed, like around September. The first date I could find at a quick glance for the SSC would be 10/07/50, so that is about as close as you can get. That is how I keep track of the tech level in my timeline. It also helps I have a fairly decent collection of the old 2nd edition books... 8) |
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Dec 14 2004, 03:39 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 6-December 04 From: Wichita Falls, Tejas Member No.: 6,872 |
Anychance you can do the world a favor and make a list of date and items for those of us that don't have 2nd edition books?
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Dec 15 2004, 12:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 172 Joined: 16-September 04 From: UK Member No.: 6,671 |
I was thinking of doing a similer thing, so im just limiting people to whats in the rule book.
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Dec 15 2004, 12:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 626 Joined: 1-March 04 Member No.: 6,112 |
Oh, and laser weapons were SOTA-100-million-plus uberweapons, if they existed as all.
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Dec 15 2004, 05:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
Okay, let's see if I can make a vague list. All dates are rough estimates.
1st and 2nd Edition Rule Books: 2050-2053. (I seem to remember 1st Ed. being 2050, but 2nd Ed. specifically says 2053. Hmmm...) Street Samurai Catalog: Late 2050 Neo-Anarchist's Guide to Real Life: 2050-2053 (Catalog section with firearms is dated 2050, but most character comments are dated 2053) Fields of Fire: Late 2054 As for Cyberware and Bioware: Shadowtech: Late 2052 Cybertechnology: Late 2056 Remember, most of these dates are based on the time/date stamps of the character comments below the item description. They could be way off, this is just what I use for my personal timeline. Hope this helps!!! :) |
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Dec 15 2004, 05:26 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I think he wanted a specific year for each weapon, as he doesn't have access to the books to see which weapons first appeared in which book. Much more work ...a lot less fun! :D
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Dec 15 2004, 06:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
I understand, but I am sure that some people would be slightly angry if I reprinted the entire sourcebook here...
Better for those interested to check their local used bookstores. I sometimes find good books for around $4-$6. |
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