Packing heat, IC discussion on weapons Options

[Snow_Fox]

I'm setting this up for not so much an adventure, but an IC chance to discuss weapons back and forth, pro/cons and if need be IN CHARACTER ONLY slagging off.

Play nice, keep in character. happy hunting.

[Snow_Fox]

Is it a guy -size thing that peopel are packing pistols that are so large you're covered in case oyu're mugged by a humpbacked whale?

For day to day wear I'm fine with a Colt Asp. yeah, a revolver, six bullets and I'm still breathing the the same lungs I came into the world with.

[grendel]

Given the state of weapon-tech on the streets today, there's no reason other than personal preference to carry a revolver over a semi-automatic. Mean failure rates for the semi-autos out there are on the tens of thousands of rounds, even under the worst environments imaginable. Nevertheless, I do agree that the larger calibers are carried simply for bragging rights. Then again, I come down on the shot placement side of the stopping power argument, so I know those on the hydrostatic shock side are going to disagree.

As for me, day to day wear is a Browning Max-power. Sure it's a single stack mag, but the slimmer profile makes it easier to conceal.

[Fortune]

Ah don't know 'bout y'all. I usually depend on my magic, but in those rare instances when I need t' reach for a pistol, I want to be sure it packs enough punch t' do the job. My Manhunter has never once let me down, unlike those stylish, fancy-ass light pistols.

[Canid13]

I'm with you chummer, I'd much rather sling a spell than haveta worry about my gun failing me. But after that last job, I've definately been awakened to the nessecity of carrying something that'll at least give a Troll pause. Guess that means I'll be sticking with my trusted Predator with explosive slugs. Gets the job done, which is all I give a drek about. Fancy tends to mean more widgets to break in the middle of the Barrens.

[JaronK]

A gun is a tool, and tools are for specific jobs. I don't carry a C-wrench down the street, nor do I expect my screwdriver to fix every broken piece of electronics. Use the right weapon for the job, and when it's been used, either change the weapon, or ditch it. There's no sense in carrying an arsenal everywhere you go.

-Paris

[grendel]

While your sentiment is correct about using the correct tool for the job, I believe Snow Fox's original question dealt more with what you carry in response to the general threat of the streets, rather than what you would choose when briefed on a specific threat. You're right in saying it would be foolish to attempt to change an elastomeric bearing with a screwdriver, but I carry a multi-tool with me on a daily basis so that I can at least attempt a repair if I am confronted with an unusual set of circumstances.

[Toptomcat]

The kind of weapons you carry is directly commensurate to the place you're in. In the Barrens I wouldn't be caught dead without anything less than a sub-machine gun, preferably an assault rifle. In the military or isolated, paracritter-infested areas, heavy weapons are your friend.
On the other hand, in a well-patrolled AA zone more subtle threats like light pistols are best. If you're inside a super-high security hush-hush zone, even a ceramic hold-out with hermetically sealed Hi-C ammunition might not be subtle enough.

In general, blend in. An ELD-AR rifle will fit right into a paintball course, and if you load it with DMSO+Cyanide it might as well be shooting .50 BMG. In a gang war chains, pipes, baseball bats and pistols are best- or, if things have gotten out of hand, even an AK-97. Certain brands of flamethrower can easily be mistaken for insustrial weilding equipment with a little tooling. If breaking into a high-sec Ares compound, for the love of God pack Alphas and wear what the security's' wearing- it might not fool them for more than a second or two, but that's usually all it takes.

[RangerJoe]

Two words girls and boys: Mono-fragging-filament whip. I keep mine spooled under one of my fingers (you'll have to get lucky if you want to try and take it off of me--1/10 ain't good odds). Most of the time it's out, done its work, and spooled again in the blink of an eye. I've seen gangers run at the mere sight of it. If you're up to living on the edge, go mono.

Just Johnny

[paul_HArkonen]

For close range nothing beat putting your fist quite litterally through the target, that's how you get shock value. But for pistols, nothing but custom jobs will suffice. The answer to every situation lies in customization, and a concealed holster and a well built pistol work quite well together.

[toturi]

I usually pack a concealed Ares Viper Slivergun holstered for quickdraw as a matter of course. If I really need to take something down in a higher security area, a Remington 950 with Glazers usually does the trick. Pistols, hunting rifles and shotguns can have permits.

Funny thing though, those multiweapon carbines like those G38s or AUG-CSLs handle just like regular hunting rifles. And those babies do burst fire.

Sides, I can always fall back on my Killing Hands. Or run away and hide.

[JaronK]

I got this really beautiful blued automatic pistol, absolutely dasling. Crome accents too... I know some folks think that's tacky, but sometimes you simply must go with the classics. Mine comes with a built in silencer, and the whole piece is of fine german craftsmanship, engraved by hand. It's absolutely darling!

Of course, when things get ugly I've got my .50 calibur colt revolver with some nice explosive rounds, but I rarely would use such a beast... a nice classic pistol with aid of a bit of cat-magic usually takes care of anything dangerous, as if anything too scary would want to hurt little ol' me!

-Antonio Domingo Valencio Shadowpaw

[Large Mike]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. For price and ammo capacity, you can't beat a Colt Manhunter if you're not packing a smartlink. Hell, with the right kind of holster and a little practice, you can even wear it to those black tie balls.

Little bit of side advice: Never go to a formal do without a weapon. I've seen barrens brawl-houses I'd rather take on barehanded than some of those shindigs.

[Snow_Fox]

What the heck do you need a .50 cal S&W for? It looks like a prop from a trid. If you need that much punch, you're in a place you shouldn't be or you should be carrying something bigger-like a shotgun.

I agree spells can be efficent, if you know what you're targeting, but for indimidation a muzzle under the chin works better than waving a finger around.
It's pretty universal. I had a run in with an azzie corp cop a while back. He was holding a gun on a chummer. I told him to drop his gun. He sneered "No habla."
I pressed my berrel into the hinge of his jaw, "Habla smith and wesson?"
He habla-ed.

I know a Colt asp looks small, but that's less likely to get the cops tense than the guy carrying a Predator or street sweeper. Also you may say missfires are rare in semiauto, but when they do, they're stone bitches to get out. Revolvers are much easier to clear and much easier to clean and maintain.

[Lindt]

Foxy, 's why ya have a back up. No matter what anyone says, there is never a place your hold out shouldent go. But for raw pants-shitting, Im finding putting a Hatamoto 2 to someones face is prime. In the right light you can actually see the end of the slug still in the chamber, and tell me a .72 cal isnt scary.

Personally, I have always been partial to the AK-97. Cheep, ugly, and more reliable then rain in Seattle. Not exactly user friendly though.

[Sedna]

[Toptomcat]

[Nightcrawler472]

Say what you will, but when you get some dumbass punk try to carjack you nothing works quite as well as pulling out a large revolver and shoving it in his face. For day to day stuff I carry a Streetline Special in an ankle holster and a Beretta Model 101T, my old sidearm, in a concealed rig under my shoulder. And there's a Ruger Super Warhawk strapped near the clutch in my car for when I'm driving.

For heavier threats...eh, it varies. My custom FN-HAR is my usual choice, unless I'm going into close quarters, in which case a shotgun is your best friend.

- FlatLine

[Snow_Fox]

Yes TTC this is what most runners do, but my point on a .5 magnum is it's too damn big for a hand gun. If you're packing that much punch, you should be carrying something larger than a mutant pistol.

[Canid13]

See, now I agree that holdouts and such have their place, but I've just never found them of any use unless I'm facing a BTL-head who's bare butt naked and half outta his brain.

While a Predator may not be chiche, and it may not be as drek hot as some custom job, those are only there as backup for the odd occasion when I don't see, smell or hear em coming. Cos if I do, any carjacker or gang-punk is hosed - Wolf helps me see to that. And if push comes to shove, this wolf has claws *wink* get my drift chummer.

Course, I'd be lying if I didn't admit there's times when only a battle rifle will do, but that's for when you have intel. But for your run-of-the-mill general purpose drek-meets-fan situation, I'll stick to me Preds to back me up.

[Vistcoatis]

Cassanova:
Its clear the Ares Viper Slivergun is one of the best made pistols in the world, I carry one on every mission I do. With its built in silencer, the Viper is quite, add on a Smartlink 2 for accuracy, and a gas vent (4) you got all the recoil comp you need to fire that bad boy all day long. As a back up the Salavette Guardian is a prefered back up, pack in some Ex Explosive ammo and smartlink 2 and anyone with alittle skill can be a deadly dude. Not to mention both guns got style, and as many of us know and expect style is 75% of the gig.

[Lindt]

Man... the Pred is dead. Browning has been making handguns for over twice what Ares has. The max power is a smaller, lighter, better built gun. Not big on the Ultra, I have one sitting on my bench in a box, cant get the factory smartlink to recognize any data for some reason. That and you need to be a troll to hold that double stack mag and still be comfterable.

[RangerJoe]

No way, brother. The Pred's got style. Have you seen the curves on the P3? It's like holding the Batmobile in your hands. (Did I just show off my age? Damn.) In an industry that's as much about rep and street cred as anything else, you can't go wrong with a litle pinache.

Just Johnny

[Lindt]

Looks like your holding a Buck Rodgers laser...

[Fix-it]

I'd have to agree with Lindt on that one. I go for the Browning Myself. Durable, simple, and reliable.