White Wolf and Nancy. A. Collins sue Sony Pictures Options

[Talia Invierno]

Exactly :D

If it's in the film - I didn't catch it in the previously listed points - that's what's probably straight theft, if anything is. ("Probably", because anything could conceivably be coincidence ... even the extremely improbable. Hence the frequently used "reasonable doubt" phrase.)

[Hot Wheels]

First one to post on the film having seen it- woo-hoo!

The film was ok, basically my memory of it is dark and noisy. Vamps and Werewolves basically go at each other with guns. Guys will drool over the lead character running around in latex. All I could think of her after a while was "chaffe city."

I won't give away anything but the plot is propperly twisted, it is NOT a big romeo julliet line and I think the law suit is dead in the water. You see very little of humans apart from the opening bit and virtually nothing of the "special powers" of vamps. Apart from acrobatics like "Crouching Tiger'" leaping over things they seem just like humans with attitude, more bored yuppies than princes of the night.

[Adam]

Underworld blew absolute complete chunks. Sam and myself nearly walked out, it was that bad. The setting was half-baked, the characters flat, the script nasty, the action forgettable, the effects tolerable, the acting terrible. It was some 14 year old's first Vampire: the Masquerade game gone bad, with a budget and corsets.

And yet, as we walked out, eagerly ripping the movie to pieces, someone ahead of us said to a friend: "That movie was so scary! It's the best movie I've ever seen!"

[Hot Wheels]

Just wait for the sequel.

[Adam]

I am shivering with giddy anticipation!

Or the office is just a little cooler than usual today.

[Siege]

I didn't think it was quite that bad -- not incredible, but still amusing enough.

And yeah, the whole latex thing just looks silly. Maybe with a tad more contour.

Is it just me, or did the 'wolves seem completely inable to hit the vamp assault squad in the last sequence?

I will point out that given the tiny budget they had to work with (relatively), it wasn't half bad.

-Siege

[Jetmaster]

[Hot Wheels]

[Siege]

I certainly don't object if they have a bigger budget and don't absolutely mangle what passes for a story line.

It was a neat fluff piece for goth kids to visualize vampire games and the like.

-Siege

[Snow_Fox]

I liked it, but it wasn't great. What was missing from this that was done better in even Blade 2 was the sense of other. THe only ones who gave you a sense they were more than human were this really big black guy werewolf from the opening shoot out- very big very nasty, Victor when he's pissed and weirdly enough, the little blond harpy. Other than that it could be a shadowrun as much as a fight between occult baddies.

I think the law suit is toast.

[Siege]

I actually liked it better than Blade 2 -- for as much money as they did spend on the special effects, the camera work for the gun fights was just _bad_.

Granted, the fight sequences weren't much better.

-Siege

[DR.PaiN]

Ugh, Underworld. It seemed like it was longer than Bad Boys II, and they didn't even invade Cuba.

[Fygg Nuuton]

ok, now i like leather/vynle/latex WHATEVER (catwoman was my first love) but JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST she owned nothing else, wheteher killing werewolves, drinving around shooting or cooking jiffypop thats all she wore.

if she wore a hockey jersey i would be happy.

now that is sexy

[Hot Wheels]

I think that's her combat suit (and a bit more functional than the little red number in "Resident Evil."). At several points for the party/reception she's told to change and at one point the little blond harpy brings a dress into her. I don't think it was so much tight budget or poor writing but they were actually making a statement here. She walks among the glittering party in their fine gowns and she's dressed like death/street sam/punk.

[smilbandit]

[Adam]

p... p... punk?

[Ancient History]

Down boy.

[Hot Wheels]

The whole black laytex look in a formal dinner party.

You'd wear soemthing like that not for a "Black tie" affair, but a "black tie down" affair.

[Ancient History]

Stop. You're reminding me of an old Madonna music :rotfl: video.

[Adam]

Still failing to see how it's punk. Rebellious, yes. Punk, no. :)

[BTW, correct spelling is 'latex', although 'laytex' is an amusing play on words...]

[Siege]

Well, she's supposed to be a "soldier" with the other deathdealers. Which explains why she's constantly in near-combat kit, I suppose.

And the fumbling affections of Kraven? would keep her out of anything vaguely approaching "non-kit", although I think she did wear a non-leather/laytex top at some point while looking up the archives.

-Siege

[Hot Wheels]

I said "punk" as attitude, not fashion.
Kraven tells her the whole soldier thing is getting old when he wants her to get dressed.

[Adam]

[Ancient History]

Would "Militant Goth" perhaps catch the correct mood?

[Hot Wheels]

I meant that she was striking out from the culture around her, effectively giving them the finger instead of following their accords.