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blakkie
post Aug 11 2005, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE (mmu1 @ Aug 9 2005, 06:14 AM)
QUOTE (Ed Simons @ Aug 8 2005, 11:44 PM)
QUOTE (mmu1 @ Aug 8 2005, 01:39 PM)
So... Did you say that you were tumbling out the window with not a care in the world for which way you'd land, or did the GM make the truly moronic call that, in a controlled fall, the troll was as likely to land on the elf as vice versa and killed a character because he felt like being a jerk?

Um, what controlled fall? The troll was fleeing in terror because of his phobia.

...so he dived through the window head-first? Left a troll-outline in the wall holding the window as he ran out in panic, then made the mistake of looking down?

Here mmu1 provides a fine example of what the 3rd line of my signature is talking about. :notworthy: They were kids cutting loose and having some fun playing a game, not some pompus tightasses deluding themselves that they were running a RL CIA agent training exercise.
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post Aug 11 2005, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE (blakkie)
Here mmu1 provides a fine example of what the 3rd line of my signature is talking about. :notworthy: They were kids cutting loose and having some fun playing a game, not some pompus tightasses deluding themselves that they were running a RL CIA agent training exercise.

"Ooh! Look at me! Now look at my special signature! See how precious and witty I am! Ok, ok... now look at me again!" :S

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post Aug 11 2005, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (mmu1 @ Aug 11 2005, 06:03 AM)
QUOTE (blakkie @ Aug 11 2005, 02:41 AM)
Here mmu1 provides a fine example of what the 3rd line of my signature is talking about.  :notworthy: They were kids cutting loose and having some fun playing a game, not some pompus tightasses deluding themselves that they were running a RL CIA agent training exercise.

"Ooh! Look at me! Now look at my special signature! See how precious and witty I am! Ok, ok... now look at me again!" :S

:rotfl: Feeling so stripped nakked and hurt by the truth of me calling you out on being a wet-blanket turd you desperately try to change the subject by attacking me....for having a humourous (at least to me ;) ) distilling of an opinion in my signature line and having the audacity to *gasp* refer to it when it is extremely topical? So i should have instead duplicated the text from the signature into my post?

Now please, let us get back to the subject of you being being a nit-picking, uptight wiener. Are you going to try put up an argument against that? Or have you given that up and realized that as a lost battle....before you even tried?
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:19 PM
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Oh noes... You called me names, then declared your unchallenged intellectual superiority without actually making an argument of any sort!

Well, I guess I've been told and I'm just going to have to leave you to roll in shit all by yourself. Have fun!
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:23 PM
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Looks like everyone is back to their old tricks. And I though a little civility had snuck in here. Oh well.
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post Aug 11 2005, 01:51 PM
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It got mugged.
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post Aug 11 2005, 02:26 PM
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Maybe the troll fell on that too
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post Aug 11 2005, 02:54 PM
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Clyde:

I think I saw that in the weather report earlier this morning.

"The National Weather Service has issued a weather advisory for our viewing area. You can expect intermittent heavy showers of large Metahumans today."

;)

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post Aug 11 2005, 05:36 PM
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What, is your name?
Sir Gawin
What, is your favorite colour?
Blue
What, is the airspeed velocity of a falling troll carrying an elf?
I dont' know that! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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post Aug 11 2005, 05:47 PM
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Ahh, thanks blakkie missed that part. Guess it makes more sense now. It still was a stupid death, just not in the traditional sense.
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post Aug 11 2005, 06:05 PM
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It was nice of the troll to think of his fallen elf friend and carry him out of the bad fire's way.

He was being helpful.



Really, he was.
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post Aug 11 2005, 07:04 PM
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imperialus:

An appropriate response, considering the material.

Funny how the Monty Python and the Holy Grail references keep popping up.

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post Aug 11 2005, 09:57 PM
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Does the troll have horns? Is it an immortal elf?
I don't know that! Ahhrg!
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post Aug 11 2005, 10:17 PM
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I think MMU1 and I both agree that it seemed like a senseless death that the GM forced on the Elf. Being an experienced GM I only ever see that when the GM wants to kill the player.

The troll would have had to wanted to land on the elf, otherwise the tumble would have found him on the bottom. I don't have scientific knowledge to present a formula for you, but falling out of a window isn't as simple as 'whoever went out first lands first."

They went through the window, I don't think they bothered to open it first. The troll could have gotten snagged, he would have had to defeat the barrier of the wall and the window etc.

Instead the GM just arbitraley declared him dead. And when something smells bad, it is bad. And that smells very, very, bad.
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post Aug 11 2005, 11:27 PM
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In all fairness, it was clarified that the elf died anyway from the impact - but the initial post made it seem to me like the GM was being a jerk, and made a heads/tails roll to see whether a character got squashed. (since I dimly recalled a 4th story fall shouldn't be lethal - and it's not, at least in SR3, it's "only" a 5S or 6S wound according to the SR Companion)
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post Aug 12 2005, 07:51 AM
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usually any thing of 3+ stories can be. Course depending on what you land on I guess any fall can. Was the elf pointy or sharp (blood elf!?) by any chance? :D

Hey! Look at my sig next!

Yes, the mugger got my dignity (I was almost out of it anyways).
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post Aug 12 2005, 04:20 PM
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From what I understand, the elf rolled for his damage taken during the fall, and ended up dieing from the fall combined with being used to smash through the window for the troll to get out. In light of him dieing, the GM rolled to see if the troll happened to land on top of the elf, for entertainment purposes.
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post Aug 12 2005, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (Tarantula)
From what I understand, the elf rolled for his damage taken during the fall, and ended up dieing from the fall combined with being used to smash through the window for the troll to get out. In light of him dieing, the GM rolled to see if the troll happened to land on top of the elf, for entertainment purposes.

...which made it impossible to sell the elf's body to the organ-leggers, screwing the players out of hard-earned :nuyen:. Like I said, the GM was a bastard. ;)
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post Aug 14 2005, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE (mmu1 @ Aug 11 2005, 07:19 AM)
Oh noes... You called me names, then declared your unchallenged intellectual superiority without actually making an argument of any sort!

Yes, my bad for calling a spade a spade.

Of course this is the second post in a row where you completely sidestep defending your statements. Instead again resorting to [apparently undefendable?] sarcastic distortions of my posts.

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Well, I guess I've been told and I'm just going to have to leave you to roll in shit all by yourself. Have fun!


First in, first out? I suggest you first might want to take a figurative shower after tossing your sarcastic, baseless insult.
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post Aug 14 2005, 02:44 PM
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blakkie, at least mmu1 was contributing to the topic. I got a bit of a smile when thinking of the cartoonish troll shaped outline left behind. It was also a valid point about the arbitrary, at that point, decision of who landed on who, much less if anyone landed on anyone. The follow-up discussion of falling objects seem to indicate a few people may have agreed with the point.

All you seem to be doing is flaming. A point of having a sig is so that people may refer to it from time to time and be reminded of the sig member's opinion or outlook. IMO, it was needless to say, "Here's another instance of part 3 section a of my sig." Btw, are you compensating for something (not necessarily the usual something) by needing multiple tags? It seems silly at times when a person's sig is longer than their comment.

Now back to our regular scheduled thread, before someone gets it locked.

Stupid player deaths...

The first character I remember dying was a cybered up dwarf magician. The team was all together and heading into an alley (confrontation/ambush) following someone apparently in tribal attire who had beckoned them. At the far end of the alley was a group the tribal guy was heading toward. It is night with poor visibility in the alley.

However, the team is made up of a dwarf, a troll, and 2 veteran players who I would think had some form of vision enhancement. The cyber, magic dwarf decides to cast a light spell. Ok, maybe a good idea to eliminate any darkness modifiers and maybe provide some glare modifiers depending on where the spell was targeted.

So I, the newbie GM ask where he wants the light to appear?

Dwarf: Right above us.

Me:?!

Everyone else: No!! Light them up!

Before the dwarf's next round he had taken deadly damage in the firefight. I don't recall if a teammate shot him accidentally or not, but I do recall they sold off his cyber at the street doc's without trying to get him medical attention.
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post Aug 14 2005, 02:56 PM
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Newbie character and player. Just learning the game. Well, for his contacts list, he include Lofwyr as a fixer. In fact, as his only fixer.

Newbie: Hey, Train! I just got a novahot job from my fixer for the group. He wants us to break into the Renraku Arcology!

Train (troll gunbunny): This doesn't sound right... Who is your fixer?

Newbie: Lofwyr. Why?

Train: *promptly begins beating the newbie*

Train, calling me about ten minutes later: Hey, Feral, got a problem with the intern.

Me (psychotic street sam): What is it?

Train: His fixer is Lofwyr.

Me: Is he dead yet?

Train: With a complication.

Me: Complication?

Train: Yeah. He's still breathing. *sound of a panther cannon firing*
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post Aug 14 2005, 04:25 PM
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o.O

Bwahaahahaahaaaaah! BAWWAHAAAHAAAAAAAH!

HOW, exactly, do you get Loffy as a Fixer?
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blakkie
post Aug 14 2005, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (tisoz)
blakkie, at least mmu1 was contributing to the topic. I got a bit of a smile when thinking of the cartoonish troll shaped outline left behind.

Maybe i read him wrong. He certainly seemed to be pulling a "reality snob" routine. If that wasn't the case, yes my bad. But given his sensitivity to my inital post, i'm guessing i'm right.

I still remember way back when i started posting here i put up a story about my first session playing SR. Right up front i said it fell into the stupid things players do category, mainly because i didn't have a sniff about how the game or the world worked. I, and the rest of the group, still had fun playing and all. It was really damn funny.

Then someone piped up with the oh-so-helpful "that GM didn't know anything about the SR setting" type of comment, that is pretty damn close to the actual wording. I asked why, what part was the problem (because i was still new to the game). They didn't even bother respond. I eventually came to realize the attitude underlying the comment, and just how damn prevalent it is here.

The person i remember it being still posts here, and often. I'm not going to name them because i'm not 100% certain of the name, and at this point it isn't even that important who it was. I'm frankly tired of that whole pretentous attitude surrounding a game, and have lost my patience for that sort of crap.

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All you seem to be doing is flaming.  A point of having a sig is so that people may refer to it from time to time and be reminded of the sig member's opinion or outlook. IMO, it was needless to say, "Here's another instance of part 3 section a of my sig."


Given the above, i'd say in fact it does serve a point to underline the ongoing disease infecting this place as opposed to this simply being an issolated incident. It isn't just that post by mmu1.

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Btw, are you compensating for something (not necessarily the usual something) by needing multiple tags? It seems silly at times when a person's sig is longer than their comment.


:P True that though there are people with bigger sigs than others my current one is on the high side. Much larger than i normally have. I kinda accumulated then lately. While i managed to cull some things, i think the "rye special" was the last one i ditched, i'm torn between things to keep and things to toss. The Mercer quote is really old, probably 2+ years. Definately since before the last time i got fed up with this place. So even though i like it maybe it needs to go. I found the Crimson one really, really funny at the time. However it is more topical and doesn't have much of a shelf-life, so it should probably go. The Firefly quote will have to stay till at least the movie comes out.

I wish the "Dumpshock Forums:..." line wasn't applicable anymore so i could dump it, i really do. But sadly it is, and likely to stay that way. It is the reason i've left here for extended time before, and most likely it will be the reason i'll leave again.

Anyway, back to whereever the thread subject had drifted too...
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post Aug 14 2005, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
o.O

Bwahaahahaahaaaaah! BAWWAHAAAHAAAAAAAH!

HOW, exactly, do you get Loffy as a Fixer?

Three words: sensual...talon...massage
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post Aug 14 2005, 09:50 PM
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This was a long time ago. My second run ever as GM.

A character tried to walk through an airport with an AK-97. When challenged he said it was for "orthopedic uses" (apparently meaning chiropractic). He proceeded to have the group troll hit him on the back a few times to get the point across to the security guards.

....

The end of the story involves a lot of slivergun fire.
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