Trained Animals, Fragging with the social adept |
Trained Animals, Fragging with the social adept |
Jan 17 2005, 05:05 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 4-May 04 Member No.: 6,302 |
I just got SOTA 2064 and was reading the earlier thread on 2064 on this site with the raging debate on more options for countering magic.
Here is an option that might work for countering a social adept or a magician. Animals are supposed to be more intune to the supernatural, right? Why not have mundanes train normal mundane animals to bark or alert their owner in someway when they are in the presence of someone using an adept power or a spell. You can even make it into a sub-plot where a dog trainer in the Humanis Policlub comes up with a way to train their dobermans to do this. So you could have a great scene where the social adept is trying to use some of the new nifty social powers on a humanis goon while a dog is barking up a storm. Eventually the rest of the underworld catches on and gets some trained animals. That would put the crimp on social adepts using their powers to get super powerful weapons from their fixers or Johnsons. The dog starts barking, the fixers realizes he is being scammed and demands that the negotiations happened over the telephone or in the Matrix. If the GM was really mean, he could have the dogs sense magical activity just like the magic sense power at essence x meters. Suddenly your average guard dog is a huge nuisance. Instead of flipping on the invisibility spell or traceless walk and cruising right to the front gate, the dogs have to be disabled first. |
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Jan 17 2005, 05:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
As in Terminator where the dogs would bark at cyborgs? |
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Jan 17 2005, 05:36 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i don't think animals' supposed sensitivity to the supernatural is documented anywhere in the books.
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Jan 17 2005, 05:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
I don't see how mundane animals would sense magic. To me this would fall under astral preception or aura reading and that would require them to be awakened. |
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Jan 17 2005, 05:47 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 4-May 04 Member No.: 6,302 |
No, you're right. I don't remember any animals being aware of supernatural phenomenom in the SR literature. Of course, I don't read many of the novels.
It doesn't have to be to add it to your game. Especially if you feel that your average mundane NPC or mundane NPC dog needs a helping hand. Also, it is a pretty common staple of the movies. :P |
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Jan 17 2005, 06:37 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
How common are dual natured creatures? Can anyone get ahold of a dual natured pet? There are Hell hounds and Cockatrices, but how available are they to the steet.
I am sure one you have one it can be trained as you are suggesting. |
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Jan 17 2005, 06:41 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
But I think his whole idea was to use mundane for mundane to use with poli clubs and the such. |
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Jan 17 2005, 06:43 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Most places where meetings take places would probably not look kindly on people bringing their pets, especially those of a dangerous awakened variety.
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Jan 17 2005, 06:57 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
OK, so is the purpose to have a stealthy detector, right? So have a mage go astral from the next room.
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Jan 17 2005, 07:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863 |
The purpose is to have a magic detector. This was for groups who hate magic anything, so they want to be able to detect it so they can defend (put in what youi want) against it.
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Jan 17 2005, 07:18 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 |
Just have them buy a few breeding vats of FAB 3. Scoop out a cup of the stuff (each) before going out and disperse as paranoia mandates.
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Jan 17 2005, 08:40 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
That's exactly what dual natured critters are for. Barghest = detect magic. Hell, if you wanna go cheap, train a Nimue's Salamander instead of a dog. It can't fight much but you can have it ring a bell or something if it sees magic. Giving mundane animals this ability is ridiculous and broken.
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Jan 17 2005, 08:49 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Yeah, Have 'em get a paracritter and let it go from there. If they don't want something that can rip your head off, then house rule a dual natured normal sized dog without all the nasty abilities.
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Jan 17 2005, 11:40 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Of course between SURGE and genetech, one might expect corporations to create, breed, or otherwise propagate paranormal animals that at least appear mundane but have such powers as Detect Magic or Magic Guard. I'm a fan of miniaturized Nimue's Salamanders, myself.
One can also use spirits such as those things from SoE that guard homes. |
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Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Jan 18 2005, 12:19 AM
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Domovoi?
There's also the "agumented" (par)animal option. The one in Threats 2. |
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Jan 18 2005, 12:33 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Or somespirit similar, but those where the ones I was thinking of.
Oh yeah. Though even "trained" ghouls could serve the purpose. One could even keep them muzzled and chained to a pole without concern in most places (despite laws). P.S. The rule for Shadowrun sourcebooks and such is underlined when referenced? |
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Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Jan 18 2005, 01:29 AM
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No. It's just that I use the MLA (amongst other) standard to underline the title of a book when cited.
It immediately distinguished the book in the title, and is differentiated between when I refer to TV/movie reference (Italics or Underline. I've come to prefer Italics), italicize something for the sake of it, or bold something for the sake of emphasizing it. However, I don't always do this, but it's become infrequent not to underline titles. When I specifically quote or cite a SB, I do make sure underline the title. Proper grammar is an occupational hazard in my field, so it's become second-nature to do it here. Anyway, I can see trained ghouls. But the premise of the original post is something which I find at fault simply because there's no explanation as to how a mundane creature would be able to sense magic. |
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