Dragon Hunters, Who is doing the hunting? |
Dragon Hunters, Who is doing the hunting? |
Jan 24 2005, 12:20 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Inspired by the Dragon Hunting Team thread.
We all know down cycle hunting occured, but who? Who was doing this hunting? Sure Synner will swing in here and say [i[Loose alliances[/i], but in the mean time lets speculate. Religous Orders St. George slew the dragon, and the gave him the keys to the chapel. But I really don't know the full story here. Any one care to fill it in? Elves Alamaise made them, and now they'll unmake him. This is Ancient History's ball right here. Who else? |
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Jan 24 2005, 12:24 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 384 Joined: 18-August 03 From: North VA Member No.: 5,519 |
Mr. Rogers.
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Jan 24 2005, 12:32 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Horror Agents.
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Jan 24 2005, 12:58 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the IEs--or, some IEs--seem to be the prime suspects. glasgian destroyed some eggs under lofwyr's care, right? i imagine you'd use some of the same tricks and techniques to track down a clutch of dragon eggs that you'd use to track down a sleeping dragon. wonder where he learned such tricks?
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Jan 24 2005, 01:53 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
Little yellow birds.
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Jan 24 2005, 03:18 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
The eggs were eaten by giant magic weasels.
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Jan 24 2005, 03:23 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
There were some 'posts' in DotSW from some dude who sounded like he hunted dragons. Or at the very least, hated them. I forget which guy it was and I don't feel like thumbing through.
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Jan 24 2005, 03:08 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Other Dragons.
The estate of Wilhelmina Graf-Beloit ~J |
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Jan 24 2005, 03:21 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Vampires that existed prior to the downcycle may have raided dragon lairs for magic lore and Essense. I find this idea amusing since we have a canon group of vampire druids working on cybermancy, though don't count it as the primary Hunters.
I've always assumed that the mystery passenger on Flight 329 was a human, if due only to the lack of a race descriptor. Things like the Sears Tower Attack pulled off by Alamos 20K two years earlier, make me think an international cabal of powerful magical humans was "resisting" the Awakening (they may also be part of the Human Nation). |
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Jan 24 2005, 03:40 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Ignoring the other options for a moment, I think regular metahumans would probably be the most interesting. People like Dragonslayer who don't trust dragons and think they have to be gotten rid of before they enslave the human race or take too much power and influence.
This brings up questions like how much do they know and how are they financed? Are they independently wealthy or do they have a backer/patron? Maybe a church or religion- Shi'a Islam seems to have more trouble with dragons than Christianity if you look at things like Tehran. Maybe they're backed by a government. I could see elven extremists from the Tir's doing something like this. Or a corp, or corps, possibly as a way against SK- Wilhelmina perhaps? Now if they do have someone backing them, do they actually know it? Maybe someone's using them as a front or cover- feed them cash and information and point them in a certain direction. I could see IE's using groups like these, either general ones or Tir based ones, as proxies. Hell, dragons themselves aren't above using humans like that in their own internal conflicts. Maybe one of them's decided to play for keeps. Or if you want and ED slant, how about the Cult of the Great Hunter? |
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Jan 24 2005, 04:00 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,362 Joined: 3-October 03 From: Poway, San Diego County, CA, USA Member No.: 5,676 |
Kanada, what book are those vampire druids in?
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Jan 24 2005, 06:55 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I'm assuming he means the Ordo Maximus, which I primarily remember from two texts off hand, London and Threats.
The Ordo Maximus has supposedly infiltrated the upper echelons of the Druids that run the Britons So in review we have: Immortal Elves Angered by their running feud with Dragon kind, the down cycle was a gift to some of these people. They also weild the skill and power to do this, as well as the knowledge. Religous Orders/Magical Cabals Masons, Illuminatis, the Ordo Maximus? They all have the power, and certainly the motivation. The need for treasure, the hunger for power make Dragon Hoards the perfect target. Plus gawd says their evil! Joe Schmoe Joe Metahuman is in on the game, but why? Some, like Wilhelmina Graf-Beloit, have the power and the motivation, but most don't. Not to mention who told them? Eaten Maybe there is something out there likes scrambled dragon eggs, and wyvern bacon, with a slice of Naga toast on the side. Could have been Vampires, could have been rabid century ferrets. Other Dragons Even in hibernation they're damn dangerous. |
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Jan 24 2005, 08:38 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Boy, this is going to be fun...
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Jan 24 2005, 08:50 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
what he meant to say was, "Loose Alliances!"
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Jan 24 2005, 09:38 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
:rotfl:
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Jan 24 2005, 10:06 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
The Duke.
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Jan 24 2005, 11:48 PM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Even beyond Denairastas or dragon influenced groups, we could suspect that encounters happened between miners and humans fleeing to mountain caves and dragons. Hypothetically, these humans might have raided the lairs as they do and thusly continued to search for more lairs. The knowledge gleaned and such from these finds may have indicated a general trend towards draconian domination - or that the sleeping dragons reserved enough magic or powers that killing them before stealing the treasures was the only way to survive the curse. One can imagine that a cursed individual (a Cain type figure) could have become a type of magician and used dragon bits to increase his potency. The Ordo Maximus is also in VR2, IIRC, where The Laughing Man is talking to Merlin. |
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Jan 25 2005, 10:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 129 Joined: 26-July 04 From: Arhus, Denmark & Paris, France Member No.: 6,516 |
Lets just hope that these dragon huntings teams don't inadvertently turn Shadowrun into Dungeons and Dragons, where it's not unusual to see a team face of against a dragon and win. Since I have always regarded the dragons in Shadowrun to be somewhat more powerful than those in D&D just look at what Aden did to Tehran & Ghostwalker in Denver, besides the sixth world would be so less interesting without them around. Killing a dragon should be a monumental event, just not something you do because you hate them or want their treasure.....
Since they apparently will appear in Loose Alliances (DIVE) I hope that they aren't that powerful so that they will turn the dragons into a endangered species, since there aren't that many dragons around in the first place. If they are then I'm sure the Great Dragons would take them out one way or another....... |
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Jan 25 2005, 11:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 151 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Reutlingen.de Member No.: 677 |
you are sooo right, Syn. |
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Feb 8 2005, 07:04 PM
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Is there any reference that says these are Greater Dragons and not just adult dragons, that would make a world of diffence as to whom did the hunting. We can assume that Greaters dont hunt other greaters from recent canon on GD's. IE's wouldnt stay IE's very long if they were found to hunt GD's., so i would have to assume something else here. Now if it was adult dragons hibernating to become Greaters i can totally see any number of the above down cycle hunting them. |
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Feb 8 2005, 07:46 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Did we mention Westphalia yet?
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Feb 8 2005, 09:34 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
The german state?
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Feb 8 2005, 10:06 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Yaar.
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Feb 8 2005, 10:09 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
how did you come to the conclusion that they hunt dragons?
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Feb 8 2005, 10:32 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
[whistles]Someone hasn't read the original Germany sourcebook[/whistle]
Actually, they're rumored tae have found a corpse complete with loot, which is how they managed to keep their economy goin' asides from sausage. I like to think the authors were making a discrete reference to some old German wyrm-slaying myth. |
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