 Combat Drones in RL, US army modifing bomb disposal robots |
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Immortal Elf  Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670  |
good luck selling humanity on that one.
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Jan 27 2005, 01:28 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
I never said I was being realistic. I mean, to you, which is the greater horror: A "conventional" war against your enemy? Or a bomb that kills none but makes you think the same as them?
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Jan 27 2005, 01:31 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the conventional war, hands down. even a relatively 'clean' conventional war, like the current one in iraq.
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Jan 27 2005, 01:38 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Maybe they should develop the homo bomb. Making love, with war.
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Jan 27 2005, 01:44 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
please. then the whole planet would be fighting over me, instead of just half.
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Jan 27 2005, 07:10 AM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
Ok, NOW we know the thread drift is terminal. :) (BTW Method, I work in human gene therapy at the University of Washington.) |
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Jan 27 2005, 04:00 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yeah, i know what you're thinking: "but mfb, if they drop the gay bomb, then only the guys will be after your hot body--still only half the planet!" rigga please. trying to make the ladies immune to my mack? you'd have better luck with that world peace thing.
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Jan 27 2005, 04:23 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
:eek: But they are immuned. They all have Immunity to MFB's mack. It is a racial bonus. |
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Jan 27 2005, 05:06 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
blasphemy!
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Jan 27 2005, 05:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
mfb has a mack?
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Jan 27 2005, 05:31 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
only in his dreams...
still, trying to eliminate war is definetly a utopia. in fact the only thing that can get a large group to cooperate over any period of time is a outside source of danger. without it the group starts to fall apart over inside disagreements. |
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Jan 27 2005, 06:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 611 Joined: 21-October 03 From: Yorkshire Toxic Zone Member No.: 5,752 |
I'm certainly not saying its pointless trying to avoid war. just wanted to make that clear. As for humans being predators, we may or may not have started out that way but don't tell me we aren't predators now!
Anyway, world views aside, I saw mfb's mack a while back. It was wearing braces and talking about chess club... :D |
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Jan 27 2005, 06:33 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i am beset on all sides by player haters.
trying to avoid war isn't pointless--but failing to prepare for war isn't enlightenment, it's national suicide. |
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Jan 27 2005, 06:59 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
We may be capable of kicking some great amounts of ass, but we're still indiscriminate omnivores. This great proclivity for violence only makes us predators if we move in after the carpet-bombing and set up an all-you-can-eat shattered corpse buffet. :) Wow, that's a depressing image. Would make for an interesting game though... |
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Jan 27 2005, 08:21 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
"interesting" isn't quite the word i'd use, myself.
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Jan 27 2005, 08:22 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
It's called Underground...
Tastee Ghoul anyone? I'll have an order of Corpus Crispies! |
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Jan 27 2005, 08:30 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
Ah, I love that game. :)
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Jan 28 2005, 04:49 PM
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Street Doc Group: Admin Posts: 3,508 Joined: 2-March 04 From: Neverwhere Member No.: 6,114 |
That sounds like Asamondo's foreign policy...
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Jan 29 2005, 01:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
kevyn668: The episode in question was called "A Taste of Armageddon" (first season, episode 23, original airdate February 23, 1967). The planets Eminiar VII and Vendikar had been at war for approximately 500 years, and Kirk & Co. blundered right into the middle of it. You all know the story--Kirk, in yet another violation of Starfleet General Order Number One (a/k/a "The Prime Directive"), essentially forces the two sides to come to the bargaining table by destroying the Eminians' (?) central computer system. This was also the only time that Kirk, or any other Starfleet Captain, AFAIK, issued General Order Number 24--in this case, he ordered LCDR. Montgomery Scott, third in the ship's chain of command, to destroy Eminiar VII if "Scotty" didn't hear from him again before the time period specified--two hours, in this case--had passed. General Order Number 24, for those of you who may not be familiar with the series, means the total eradication of a planet's population, and the supporting infrastructure. The Prime Directive was supposed to be the United Federation of Planets' (or at least Starfleet's) highest law--interference with the established civilization of a planet, except for permitted purposes such as trade, or possible admission to the U.F.P. was strictly forbidden, and all Starfleet personnel swear an oath to die before breaking it. Apparently, though, it was rarely enforced, at least on the original series, because Kirk violated it more than once, yet he not only remained alive, but in command of a Starship. In the Star Trek: Voyager episode "The Omega Directive" (fourth season, episode 21, original airdate 04/15/1998), we find that there is *ONE* exception to The Prime Directive. During this episode, the Voyager's crew encounters a planet whose people are experimenting with a primitive--by Federation standards--form of faster-than-light propulsion involving the "Omega Particle". The particle in question, because it has the power to destroy subspace--thereby rendering warp drive and subspace communications inoperative--is considered a threat to the very existence of the United Federation of Planets (and, by extension, Starfleet). Command-level officers (Lieutenant-Commanders and above, I think) are the only Starfleet personnel who know of this Directive. It essentially rescinds The Prime Directive temporarily--i.e., the crew(s) of any involved vessel(s) are allowed to do whatever is necessary to eliminate the threat, up to and including the destruction of the planet(s) involved with the production of the Omega Particles. CAPT. Janeway to LT. Tuvok: "Mister Tuvok, for the duration of this mission, The Prime Directive is rescinded. Is that understood?" Method, Jrayjoker: There was a combat drone in real life. It was called the "Prowler" ("Programmable Robot Observer With Logical Enemy Response"), and was built by the now-defunct Robot Defense Systems, Inc., of Denver, Colorado. Here are a couple of links: Prowler Robot and: Image through RDS-built Laser Vision System mounted on Prowler--Brightness Represents Distance According to what I was able to find, the "Prowler" was produced from 1983 until RDS, Inc., filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy protection in 1986. INTRODUCTION: AUTONOMOUS SECURITY ROBOTS (Sorry. Botched the link on my first attempt. :( ) Its most famous appearance was probably when one of the robots co-starred with Chuck Norris in the 1986 film Code of Silence. --Foreigner |
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Jan 29 2005, 01:33 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
That laser vision system is essentially how ultrasound would look.
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Jan 29 2005, 01:52 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Foreigner:
I am impressed. Your attention to detail is, well, impressive. :) |
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Jan 29 2005, 02:22 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 586 Joined: 22-November 02 From: Gordonsville, Virginia, U.S.A. (or C.A.S.) Member No.: 3,630 |
kevyn668:
Flattery will get you everywhere. :P I'm what you might call a "second-generation-Trekkie-by-osmosis"--my brother and I were only two years old when STAR TREK premiered in 1966. We watched it in syndicated reruns. My brother was the real addict; AFAIK, he's watched ALL of the episodes of EVERY STAR TREK-inspired series, beginning with the original show, then STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, then STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE, then STAR TREK: VOYAGER, and nowSTAR TREK: ENTERPRISE. As far as the "attention to detail" bit, it might have something to do with the fact that I (A) suffer from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), and (B) have a lot of time on my hands, as I have been unemployed for over four years--I was "downsized due to a corporate restructuring" in August, 2000, after working for the same company for just over 12 years. They tried to fire me because my then-supervisor thought that I was sleeping on the job--however, once they found out that I was protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) because I have the "silent" form of epilepsy (which I found out during a CAT scan and MRI to to find out what was causing my apparent attacks of on-the-job narcolepsy), they used the "corporate restructuring" bit as an excuse to get rid of me. (I wasn't the only person who got the axe at the time, though. Some folks who'd been there for thirty or more years were also "downsized". Try getting a fresh start when you're considered "old enough to retire".) What galls me most about it was that the new supervisor, who had replaced the one who had accused me of nodding off after she was promoted and transferred, had assured me that my job was safe at my Performance Review approximately five months earlier. (Not to mention that my "sleeping on the job" had gone on for the better part of TWO YEARS before the little twit decided to confront me. Try explaining that to your boss when you have no idea what's happening. All I knew was that I would feel drowsy for what was, to me, a period of only a few seconds--I was unaware of the actual seizures and, because I also have no short-term memory, I was unable to remember having had them. Some of my coworkers, though, said that I was often "out of it" for several MINUTES at a time. If I and my family had been the sort to file a lawsuit, I would have OWNED the place.) --Foreigner |
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