 How do you use the canon material? |
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 Jan 28 2005, 12:21 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 6-December 04 Member No.: 6,871  |
Just trying to see how far people deviate from what is published.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:23 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
I'm more of a "pick and choose" or "it doesn't affect us" kind of guy.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:23 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Depends on the champagin as well, but I usually start with the books and then go wherever the thought takes me.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:25 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 108 Joined: 10-July 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 2,960 |
I use it, but only as it fits with my game. If something I disagree with then I change, modify, or interpret in my own way to fit the campaign.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:25 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
Big stuff is true. I sometimes edit out small details. I don't really strike them from the record, I just don't choose to use everything unless a player chooses to go there.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 |
Pretty much the same tune here, only I voted for if its printed then its true. Mainly because my players rarely involve themselves with some of the Big aspects of the Sixth World but we like our gritty details. Also i make most of my books available as Shadowland to the chars, so i dont alter too much to reward them slogging through some of the books for the info they want.
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Jan 28 2005, 12:39 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
I'm trying to figure out if you meant campaign or champaigne, both could fit. :) I use the names, and even change some of those. |
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Jan 28 2005, 12:48 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
"It dependsh on how drubnk I are!"
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Jan 28 2005, 12:55 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Using canon material is a great way to increase the realism and verisimilitude of the game, as Shadowrun has quite a detailed timeline and world history (in fact, I would hesitate to even claim that I use ALL of the canon, simply because the entirety is too rich and vast to digest into a single campaign). The cloak-and-dagger nature of Shadowrun also makes allowances for information to be false or presented in multiple point of views. In general, our group strives to maintain the canon history and timeline of the Big events (The Big D is still dead), and interpret the local events in a light that best fits the campaign. I also have a tendancy to downplay the fantastical elements and focus on more realistic ones when I GM, simply because I'm tired of PCs predicting blood mages when Aztechnology shows up or predicting insect spirits on Ares runs.
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Jan 28 2005, 01:28 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
I wish more GMs would pay attention to shadow commentary. makes for great plots and rumours.
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 Jan 28 2005, 02:20 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
I...I have a little shrine where I put the canon, and at night I worship it. I like to caress the holy text and reap its secrets and infallible logic with my eyes...
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Jan 28 2005, 02:26 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Even the typos and the formatting errors? :) |
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Jan 28 2005, 03:12 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Blasphemy! Heretic! :P |
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Jan 28 2005, 03:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,785 |
I read cannon closely, and am pretty anal about presenting it accurately, but sometimes I have fudged on some things.
The notable example is SURGE. I thought the SURGE "epidemic" and ensuing "SURGE CULTURE!" movement were about six shades of retarded. Its like "Hey, it's been 40 years since Goblinization, so lets do it again, only this time lets make more colorful and add in a furry pornstar!" So, while indivuals with deformities greatly resembling SURGE effects may eventually creep in as NPCs, you won't find SURGE clubs in any major sprawls in Akarenti's Shadowrun universe. Nor will you find feline pornstars. There are plenty of "comet made magic go crazy" things in YotC that actually added something to the game. SURGE just wasn't one of them. |
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Jan 28 2005, 03:52 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Where art thy sacred shrine, O Holy Ancient One? Pray tell me, so that I may make my pilgrimage. Verily I say to thee, I shalt pray 3 times daily facing thy holy Shadowrun Kabala. Yea, o prophet of Canon, such joy I have never felt hath filled mine heart and I shalt smite the heretics of House Rules, for as the Running Gods give me strength, I shalt give those infidels and pagans of D20 no rest. In the name of the AAAs, Amen. |
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Jan 28 2005, 04:03 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
A better question in my case might be how do i not use canon. Regardless of the events described in Canon, few would have any real impact on my game. We never use those characters, rarely those situations. Overall I use Canon as a guideline, from which I do not hesitate to deviate from depending on my whim, or my players.
We haved played games that range from the awakening ocuring in different time frames-the old west and world war two are my favorites-to games that vary little from canon's exsisting fabric. |
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Jan 28 2005, 07:57 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,590 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 6,650 |
okay why not? if you get feline looking people why wouldn't some make a successful porn career? and even without surge some people would get the surgery and if it became a high rapidity thing a culture would spring up around it |
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Jan 28 2005, 03:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,785 |
I don't think SURGE was poorly thought out, just redundant. I mean, you have plenty of Humanis type stuff with "normal" metas, not to mention metavarients and ghouls. Plus you already have the whole body mod culture. SURGE acts as just more of the same, and I think it clutters things up and makes those earlier, similar elements less meaningful. As you pointed out, even the pornstar doesn't need SURGE for her gimic. She could do the same thing with surgery. Or latex. Oh, and you won't find feline pornstars in my game mainly because there are so few pornstars making apearances, that I really don't need to go that far to make one memorable. I like to keep things simple when I can. |
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Jan 28 2005, 05:25 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I picked the first one simply because I don't care. If a player says "Hey, it's 2064, so this happened!" Unless it directly contradicts my plot, fine, I can run with it.
I rarely really interact with all the silly details in the metaplot. It's simply not relevant. |
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Feb 1 2005, 04:25 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
We don't use that much of canon in our campaing. We play in Miami, so Cyberpirates is enough on canon material for this region :)
The big stuff like Arc, SURGE, Ring Of Fire or Saito are jsut too far away (from Miami) o we don't care (SURGE). |
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Feb 1 2005, 07:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 344 Joined: 5-January 05 From: Wherever this piece of meat rests. Member No.: 6,937 |
I stick to it as much as possible. Of course as a GM you add what you want to it, but I don't have any 6th world altering things going on. (That's why it's SHADOW run, so the wage slaves don't get all uppity) I think the main reason I use canon and no house ruling (that I know of :wobble: ) is so that my players have a shared experience in a way with everyone else playing the game.
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