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Which heavy pistol is your favourite?
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Solidcobra
post Sep 9 2003, 04:00 PM
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YES! My goal is completed! I have scared someone! HAHAHAHAHA.....
BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...... BWUHUHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAARklll...... grrrgl.... harkl.... hrkkl.... *dies from suffocation*
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post Sep 9 2003, 04:15 PM
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I have to go with the heavy revolver.

Now you have to ask yourself, Did I fire five shots or was it six? Well punk, do you feel lucky?
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post Sep 9 2003, 07:37 PM
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Generally speaking, my three choices are:

Standard carry and use: Colt Manhunter
1. Its not an Ares Predator
2. Marginally higher concealability
3. Laser sight already mounted (I play "off the rack" adepts)

Assault and combat kit use: Sav. Guardian
1. Burst fire
2. Recoil comp
3. Burst fire

Special ops: Ruger SuperWarhawk
1. Marginally higher point of damage
2. Cylinder allows flexability in choosing ammo loads
3. Justifies playing "Good, Bad and Ugly" theme music in background

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post Sep 9 2003, 10:11 PM
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Gotta love the Morisey Elite.
That or SupaWarhawk.
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post Sep 10 2003, 10:30 AM
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Super warhawk was a close second for me, so you can add on totally redundant mag-scopes (or laser sights as an apt replacement) and go for a pair - hey presto, you ARE Snake Plisken!

Anyone for a little "Bangkok Rules?"

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post Sep 10 2003, 12:11 PM
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WARHAWK!!!!

I LOVE THE IDEA OF A BIG BOOMING REVOLVER!
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post Sep 10 2003, 12:21 PM
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It's a toss up for me. I like all the options the Guardian has... But then again, I like the style of the Old Western Revolver. I also like the Manhunter (No one seems to have caught on that it holds 16 rounds. That's one more then that highly tougted Predator you carry).

So while your opponet is reloading, you still have a round left in the chamber.

Now, weither that round is for your opponet or yourself, it's up to you.
(Yes, I've played under sadistic GMs where this was an option. And it was usually the better one)
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post Sep 10 2003, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (Solidcobra)
What do you know.... i picked the Ares Preddy......
why? Because it's fun for the whole family!

Mage? Just get a Pred I with Laser Sight and Silencer.

A mage will have a cheaper cost just getting the Colt Manhunter with an integral laser sight and a larger magazine.
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post Sep 10 2003, 05:34 PM
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For me it has to be a Savalette Guardian, Thats one john smiths of a gun.

Cause you got to change the link to a version 2, then add a custom grip. But for a gun this nice it's worth it.

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post Sep 10 2003, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (Hot Wheels)
QUOTE (Solidcobra @ Sep 9 2003, 11:43 AM)
What do you know.... i picked the Ares Preddy......
why? Because it's fun for the whole family!

Mage? Just get a Pred I with Laser Sight and Silencer.

A mage will have a cheaper cost just getting the Colt Manhunter with an integral laser sight and a larger magazine.

yes, that's possible..... but my point was: A Predator will work for every opportunity, it may not be the best solution but it IS a very reliable weapon, like the israeli Uzi, it is not good in any way, but it's dirt cheap, easy to use and it will operate with a trollfist of sand in it, the AK-47 follows the same basis, the Predator is just a future pistol version of the "Massmade, customisable and easy" weapon.... the versions i said could work wonders, there WILL be weapons that can do a better job, but in the case of pistols, which weapons wouldn't?

The sammy wouldn't need a pistol, he has his tweaked AK-98/Dual SMGs/Heavy Machinegun/shotgun

The Decker won't need a weapon at all

The mage can, as said above, use the Manhunter

BUT(!!!!) the ares predator will work good for anyone, most runners can shoot a gun, a lot of runners can't use Assault Rifles/Martial Arts/Deck/Throw magic.....

The Predator is reliable and a cheap "Get rid of" weapon, something you can shoot empty, throw away and not regret it later!
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post Sep 10 2003, 10:02 PM
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Sure it will work for every oportunity, but if you want to run up costs and wieght by buying extra's instead of guns that come with them standard, I so don't want to bearound when you buy a car, unless i'm getting the commission. :D
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post Sep 11 2003, 01:14 AM
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WOW, not many people voting for the revolvers. IMHO they are good for style weapons. But if I want a character to have one I usually build my own using the CC rules.
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post Sep 11 2003, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE (Street Wyze)
WOW, not many people voting for the revolvers. IMHO they are good for style weapons. But if I want a character to have one I usually build my own using the CC rules.

Primarily because if I'm in a combat situation, I like the idea of a magazine reload.

And 16 rounds to 6 is a hell of a perk.

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post Sep 11 2003, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (Solidcobra)
QUOTE (Hot Wheels @ Sep 10 2003, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE (Solidcobra @ Sep 9 2003, 11:43 AM)
What do you know.... i picked the Ares Preddy......
why? Because it's fun for the whole family!

Mage? Just get a Pred I with Laser Sight and Silencer.

A mage will have a cheaper cost just getting the Colt Manhunter with an integral laser sight and a larger magazine.

yes, that's possible..... but my point was: A Predator will work for every opportunity, it may not be the best solution but it IS a very reliable weapon, like the israeli Uzi, it is not good in any way, but it's dirt cheap, easy to use and it will operate with a trollfist of sand in it, the AK-47 follows the same basis, the Predator is just a future pistol version of the "Massmade, customisable and easy" weapon.... the versions i said could work wonders, there WILL be weapons that can do a better job, but in the case of pistols, which weapons wouldn't?

The sammy wouldn't need a pistol, he has his tweaked AK-98/Dual SMGs/Heavy Machinegun/shotgun

The Decker won't need a weapon at all

The mage can, as said above, use the Manhunter

BUT(!!!!) the ares predator will work good for anyone, most runners can shoot a gun, a lot of runners can't use Assault Rifles/Martial Arts/Deck/Throw magic.....

The Predator is reliable and a cheap "Get rid of" weapon, something you can shoot empty, throw away and not regret it later!

Wait a minute; what the hell are you talking about? Any gun in Shadowrun will operate with a bucket of sand dumped on the internals because there aren't any rules to cover weapon reliability. How is the Predator any more reliable than anything else?
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post Sep 11 2003, 02:07 PM
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sssh, he works for Ares and is plugging their line of weapons, doen't screw up the copy.
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post Sep 11 2003, 03:44 PM
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DAMMIT WHEELS! now you've told everyone! great! juuust great! now i won't get paid..... THANKS A LOT!

What i meant is: it's good, reliable, customisable and: it's THE gun to use in SR, why? it just is..... no, really!
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post Sep 11 2003, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Solidcobra)
DAMMIT WHEELS! now you've told everyone! great! juuust great! now i won't get paid..... THANKS A LOT!

What i meant is: it's good, reliable, customisable and: it's THE gun to use in SR, why? it just is..... no, really!

Because the Colt Manhunter is roughly the same size (actually smaller), has a larger magazine by one round, and includes an internal laser sight for 25 nuyen less.

And other questions? :grinbig:
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post Sep 11 2003, 04:38 PM
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yes, will i be teased for this forever now?
and can we drop it? please?
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post Sep 11 2003, 07:06 PM
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Well, to be fair --> having everyone carry the same weapon means you can pass ammo as necessary and not worry about magazine compatability.

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post Sep 11 2003, 11:58 PM
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The FN Five-seveN tactical would be my choice if it where on the list, you can find the stats as Shadowrun and Firearms, provided by are local firearms expert Raygun. But since it is not I have to go with the Guardian, because it is some what concealable, has a decent clip size, with a nice heavy punch to it. And the fact that it can burst fire, allow you to make sure your target is down for good.

And a firearm designed for cased ammunition uses some different principles in how it operates. I can't explain it very well, just go to Caseless Ammunition.
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post Sep 12 2003, 12:01 AM
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All well n' good if yer bein' sneaky...

...I like to go out with a BANG!

(whips out his Armitech MGL-6)

CacKlE!
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post Sep 12 2003, 01:42 AM
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...which is a grade A+ toy!

Don't I remember correctly - hasn't the MGL12 and MGL6 been left out of thire-ed? Why is that? Or am I wrong (as usual)?
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post Sep 12 2003, 02:10 AM
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NGL6 and 12 are in the cannon companion.
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post Sep 12 2003, 07:24 AM
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D'oh! That keeps happening to me...

I guess I must have this selective blindness that occludes certain pages of the CC from my view during reading... I seem to recall saying the same thing about the Sav Guardian - which in my opinion was a grossly unbalancing pistol.

Now, take those stats and call it an SMG and you're well away (with a little extra on the price tag...)

Who wants to pay that much for a gun they can see themselves in, anyway? ;)
(ah, 2ndEd talky bits...)
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post Sep 12 2003, 10:54 AM
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I go for the SuperWarhawk, purely for style

My current character has used his 5 times so far, but only fired 2 rounds - he only has to pull it out and cock the hammer before people start telling him what he needs to hear :D

It's not so great when you need to at least try to be quiet, so I usually go for either a predator or a manhunter and a silencer then, depending on if the character has a smartlink or not.
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