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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 ![]() |
It seems that most initiates have Masking. The ones I write as NPCs do. My players all do. In fact, my players always take Masking as their first Metamagic technique. Is this true for everyone? I know there are some other nice "first technique" choices out there, but it does seem lucrative as the first one. Agree or no?
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 ![]() |
I'm glad there's at least one panda vote. :D
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Immoral Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 ![]() |
Your fault ... you added it as an option! :P :D
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 ![]() |
In my experience 80% of Initiates take either Masking or Shielding before any of the other options (and in most cases these will be the first two metamagics taken).
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Canon Companion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 ![]() |
The Panda metamagic is uber. You can turn all the people targeting you into Pandas.
Actually Centering would be my first choice. |
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Free Spirit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,948 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 ![]() |
Play mostly shamen, so I snag Invoking. Then centering or channeling.
What's so great about masking at grade 1? |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,598 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Hong Kong Member No.: 4,253 ![]() |
You can appear to be completely mundane to the average look over, an attempt to break masking requires 'targeting' somone specifically. In addition, non-initiates can't attempt to break masking (iirc).
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#8
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 147 Joined: 15-September 03 Member No.: 5,619 ![]() |
CLEANSING!!!!!
Backlground COunt is so diffused in Shadowrun WOrld taht without Cleansing normal or low-level spelcasters cannot do anything useful!!!! |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 ![]() |
Being as I currently soley GM for my group and i`ve never had a magic char in previous games that lasted long enough for me to initiate. I`ve had to base my answer off my groups actions. (which was a NO btw) . Centering seems to be their favorite, especially when it comes to our Gun Adept (who`s just hit Grade 2) and can now Center for his pistols..which is pretty nasty.
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 ![]() |
I rarely have seen characters chosing anything else than centering at first grad of initiation. Only one chose masking first. Didn't make it to seond grade... grenades are not good for human mages ;)
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Mr. Johnson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 ![]() |
Depends on the character. One mage was a former Shasta gypsy, and chose Divination as her first metamagic. Masking is a popular one, but only to hide some of the big-ass foci that the mage lugs around. Centering is usually a 2nd grade choice, only because it takes Karma to build up a Centering skill.
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Free Spirit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,948 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 ![]() |
By big-ass I guess you mean Force 1 at iniitiate grade 1? That and having non-initiate mages not be able to id you as a magician through astral perception seems kind of tame compared to some other metamagics. [edit] Noticed that was without effort, but how often does deliberate masking succeed? [/edit] |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 236 Joined: 14-March 04 From: Cal Poly: SLO Member No.: 6,155 ![]() |
I've never seen a single person take masking. Why bother? If somebody sees you and you're not supposed to be there, it doesn't matter if you're a mage or not, they shoot you anyways.
Our physads tend to take centering first, although we also have a houserule that you can skip a metamagic and get astral perception as a metamagic on your next initiation. Some people go that route. As for our mages, Anchoring and Quickening are the big ones. Followed by absorbtion and cleansing. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 ![]() |
Some players in the group I currently run have an initiatory group. Their first metamagics were:
JIS Gun-Fu adept: Masking. TnO Phoenix shaman: Centering. PCC Eagle shaman: ack, can't remember! It wasn't any of the above two, anyway. Personally, it would depend on the character I was playing. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 62 Joined: 14-January 05 Member No.: 6,976 ![]() |
My only awakened character at the moment is an obeyifa, and he's carrying around a ton of force 5+ gris-gris at any given time. Given the rules for masking, it doesn't afford him much protection at all, but I might take it for him later when he initiates just to make masking wards.
In general, though, he doesn't have too many options when it comes to metamagic. A great deal of them only work for people with sorcery. Anyone else wish there were more metamagical techniques centered around conjuring? |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
i'd imagine that most adepts go for Centering first, followed by Centering for a second skill area (if their focus is on something other than athletics and stealth).
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Man In The Machine ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 ![]() |
2 words. Channelling, invocation. Or, how your 115lb Unicorn shamen can drop Bubba the cyber troll like a ton of bricks.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 167 Joined: 11-August 04 Member No.: 6,556 ![]() |
I took masking for my hermatic mage in the game I am in right now, so I could use it in conjunction with the possession metamagic technique.
I'm waiting to use it to sneak in behind the enemy defenses and attack from behind on the physical world. |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 91 Joined: 23-January 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 7,007 ![]() |
I am surprised nobody mentioned quickening. It definitely seems to be a popular choice in the games I have played in.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 ![]() |
The only Awakened character in my campaign that has expressed an interest in a metamagic mentioned Divination. And the otaku wants Info Sortilage. Guess they put a pretty high priority on information.
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Free Spirit ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,948 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 ![]() |
What/how are they using Anchoring to make it such a priority? They seem like expensive/glorified sustaining foci. If they were like 2nd edition where you didn't have to withstand drain every activation, I could understand it better. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
quickening's okay. that and anchoring are generally more useful to magician's way adepts, though.
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 ![]() |
Yeah, but if your stalking some mark with astral bodyguards being abel to hide that fact you're astral as well can be a big help. Along with many similar situations. Plus Masking is the only way to pierce a spirits aura Masking and it's always nice to know your fixer is a bug. Finally, with Masking one can enter a warded area while having active foci without astral combat or alarm (not to mention one can make Masked wards and Alarm wrds with it). Masking has always been one of the first, but usually only for those with Astral Perception. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
plus, it's not like the security mages at a given facility will necessarily know every aura of every worker there, unless they've taken the time to assense each and every worker--and all the delivery guys, and all the repair guys, and all the transfers, and so on. if you're a mage or physad, and you're sneaking into a facility in disguise, masking will be pretty damn useful.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 614 Joined: 17-June 03 From: A safehouse about to be compromised by ninjas Member No.: 4,754 ![]() |
Depends on the character. Due to the tn forumal for using masking, even if its going to be a mainstay ability its not always useful as the first technique; depending on what kind of opposition you typically face. Regardless, you get a panda vote.
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