 Go To Jail, What's the worse a GM can do to a Player |
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 Feb 4 2005, 08:19 PM
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Beetle Eater  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826  |
Megladons, sea serpents, and krakens, oh my!
Yomi is liberated as of 2062. |
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Feb 4 2005, 08:54 PM
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Chicago Survivor Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 5,079 Joined: 28-January 04 From: Canton, GA Member No.: 6,033 |
What about an old military sub base. cameras to give viewers somethign to watch, it's spartan, it's surrounded by water in the middle of nowhere and easily set up to repulse all but the most massive of attacks.
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Feb 4 2005, 09:07 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Right, so you'd have to base the campaign before then. Still would be an interesting concept. |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Feb 5 2005, 12:16 AM
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This week was the 25th anniversary of the bloodiest prison riot in U.S. history.
Given the fact that shadowrunners generally own the prison, it'd be interesting to see them come out the heroes in such an event by stopping it, winning public support, freedom, and phat ass reps. |
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Feb 5 2005, 01:53 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
You mean New Mexico? I guess it's all in how you see deadly, while that may have had a better death toll (officially) I still think that the three or so years before they permanently locked Marion down was the real worst.
If you want any advice on whata real life super max prison runs like let me know. That's my job. |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Feb 5 2005, 05:50 AM
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Yeah.
[edit] This post has been edited by Crimsondude 2.0: Feb 5 2005, 11:34 PM |
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Feb 5 2005, 12:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Of course that begs, at least to me, the question why? If you'd like feel free to PM me, if not that's cool too.
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Feb 5 2005, 12:13 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
So do I, but probably for different reasons. :D |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Feb 5 2005, 08:02 PM
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I'd rather not, if it's all the same. I've probably already said too much.
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Feb 5 2005, 10:25 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
You know I'll respect that but mention my skepticism. It's hard on a board like this to take that sort of comment seriously, if it were anyone else I'd be tempted to press the issue, but as far as I can tell you've been a stand up guy here, so I'll respect the limits you've set.
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Feb 5 2005, 11:33 PM
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I completely understand your skepticism, and would expect nothing less to be honet.
I regret mentioning it only because it does sound rather suspicious. It was an inappropriate and foolish non sequitur that I shouldn't have typed in the first place, but something got the better of me. I don't even know why I mentioned it last night. However, I do appreciate you extending me this one-time only grant of good faith. Thank you. |
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Feb 11 2005, 08:51 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
Sorry but not on my board, not my hometown.
Yes Zombies are involved, and so are Bugs, Wendigo's, and any other nasty critter the Corps, or Government prefer to "quietly dispose of", no body, no evidence, just put it in a box and ship it out. and Yes Ash is involved, and living quite comfortable in the middle of New York, keeping a very evil book safe from the hands that would love to make use of it.
... And let's not forget how both of them Ended. With Snake walking away, completely free, after totally screwing over his "employers"
Also Known as a Zone Implant from Stephen R Donaldsons "The Gap" series, I would never be so cruel to a PC, unless the player acts like a complete @$$hole offensively insults me and the rest of the group and moves out of state.
I'd never be that nice. Food is either grown, killed, or become.
If the Corp catches the Criminal in question they foot bill for thier imprisonment, if Lonestar catches the Criminal, Crim is put up for auction, and if they have no bidders the Government foots the bill, Lonstar Runs the Prison and makes a Fortune off of it.
That's worth Karma Points, though 86 the broadcast, instead after about 15 years of being active the auto guns are "Common Knowledge"
You are assuming they can Get to the Auto Turrets, Program that thing to target and eleminate anything that comes close enough. Put them Around the Prison just outside the Walls, and leave yourself a Safezone to Drop prisoners in, and let the prisoner hope that not only does the parachute work, but also that they don't drift into the "Salsa Zone"
Modern Technology has made a Camera the size of a shirt button, why not just plaster the buildings with the darn lil buggers, inside and out.
Luckily niether have I. So far they've been the smart kind, the kind that use their feet. I am dreading the day when I have to though.
In My Honest Opinion (IMHO) too much work involved in transporting Crims into it, besides it'd get cramped too quick.
Uhm, No, They are fighting for thier lives, fighting each other, bugs, wendigo's, vampires, undead, beholders, broken ones, liches, and all other manner of nasty creatures which inhabit areas so irradiated with negativity. Think of it this way, Buffy The Vampire Slayer T.V. series uses Term HellMouth: Physical point on planet where the protections that keep Hell from vomitting itself unto our beutifull planet are so thin that often times one or more demons will cross to wreak havoc upon our world. With all the negativity such prisons would produce they would basically be HellNoses, intermittently sneezing out evil things. Lonestar as owners of the Prisons are also in charge of keeping these evil things in. As I said, the closest thing to Hell a Character will ever see Before they Die |
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Feb 11 2005, 09:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 401 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Living with the straw sheep. Member No.: 2,850 |
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| Guest_Crimsondude 2.0_* |
Feb 11 2005, 09:37 AM
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Oh, sorry. You see that comment was based on my actually reading and making reference to the prison subchapter of SOTA64. |
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Feb 11 2005, 09:37 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
Demosthenes, you have questions??? ask them, either on the post or via email, I promise I won't bite your head off... bass624@cox.net
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Feb 11 2005, 04:07 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Pity the poor mages in that place. After being so dark for so long, the background count must be through the roof.
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Feb 11 2005, 04:12 PM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Yes, Canon Prisons as compared with GM-created ones to kill his PCs. |
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Feb 11 2005, 04:36 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Arbitrarily killing PCs seems to be a constant theme for Weredigo. :| |
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Feb 11 2005, 04:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 138 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 6,700 |
its hard to get pcs into prisons.. the only time I saw a runner captured by the star by the time he was caught he had done enough to warrant the chair.. which he got.. <quite funny, lots of bod, had to be zapped thrice to die...people were starting to bet.. :) >
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Feb 11 2005, 05:26 PM
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Traumatizing players since 1992 Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,282 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 220 |
Lone Star is a multinational extraterritorial AA megacorporation. If for some reason they decide you NEED to be in prison. You'll go to prison, or die in the process. |
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Feb 11 2005, 09:09 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
nope, just making life interesting for them. Actually I'm a bit nicer to my players then my GM was to him. Can you imagine going out for a walk and encountering an Elder Black Dragon around the next corner, who's hungry, and pissed.
Oh, no, my apologies if it seemed as if I was biting your head off, I haven't read SOTA64 yet so reference went completely over my head.
Since so far I've only used the prison's as an example of what would happen if a character get's caught, if I ever have to send a mage there, there will be null pity on my part. A Player would really have to screw the pooch big time to wind up in that much trouble with me. |
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Feb 11 2005, 09:19 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I think there are some major flaws in the way Shadowrun presents Jail and prisons, but I'm a little close to the subject matter so Iwould of course. I think they have failed to presnt it in a usable fashion so far-which makes sense actually, Imean professionals don't see much prison time, especially when bullets are so much cheaper, and guarenteed to keep mouths shut.
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Feb 12 2005, 03:07 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,073 Joined: 23-August 04 Member No.: 6,587 |
The Australia point is not quite valid.
I am Australian, the convicts where not sent hear to rot, they where the cheep labor source to build a colony’s infrastructure (starting with a jail complete with cells). There was some throwing of aboriginal trouble makers onto rottenest island but even then there where wardens on the island to watch them and take them back when they had server there sentences. Or where you referring to the reality TV shows in Tasmania (described in T:AL). That really is more of an elaborate death sentence than a prison Edward |
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Feb 12 2005, 04:30 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
.................... uh, Weredigo? First, you NEVER ask "What's the worst a GM could do to PCs?". This opens up the proverbial floodgates in the GM in question, revealing resources of imagination tied with a nigh-Grimtooth-level streak of sadism that would make even the most despicable beings our race has produced go "Uh, dude, isn't that just a little excessive?"
Second, you don't NEED to ask "What's the worst a GM could do to PCs?". Every GM is different, so be thankful of that. Speaking as both the recipient & a contributor of the above-mentioned sadism, it can be a blessing what your PCs get in comparisson. But that's just IMHO. |
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Feb 12 2005, 06:08 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
Which I do appreciate. Yes I've been the reciever of such sadism, but I deal it out a little more subtly. What really get's characters to look at me and say "You sick, twisted, evil, maniacal, bastard." is when this happens. GM/Player discussion.
P: what's in the room. G: it's barren except for a metallic egg about the size of a small trash can. P: what's it made out of exactly? G: mag theory, Targs a (roll) 3 P: (roll) four successes... G: that's oricalchum... P: Booh YA, Jackpot, about how much would it be worth??? G: and it's moving? P: huh, moving how? G: rocking back and forth, from side to side? What are you doing??? P: casting Barrier spells... G: targs a (roll) 5 P: (roll) three successes G: Level three barrier spell... crack... P: It's attacking me???? G: no, it just went Crack... P: how big of a crack??? G: foot and a half... crack... what are you doing??? P: calling the Street Sam, that things going to be hungry... P2: I'm on the way... G: out comes a baby white dragon, it looks at you... P2: I'm loading blueberrys on the way... G: noted... It looks at you P1... P1: it's just looking at me??? G: and it changes into a little boy/girl about 6 years old... P1 + P2 (Stunned Silence)... You sick, twisted, evil... That's the worst thing I've ever done to a PC. They named her Angel. |
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