 We all agree the melee rules are broken, so what are we going to do about it? |
 Feb 14 2005, 04:48 PM
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Now, a couple of people have had a crack at complete unarmed systems, but so far I don't think there's been a co-operative effort.
Okay, I realise that getting a final decision out of a group as diverse as Dumpshock could be troublesome, but I think it would be worth while. The usual caveat applies - constructive criticisms of idea only, please :) if you want to flame, take it somewhere else. I'll open the project by suggesting that advanced melee should be based off of manouevres, although not as strictly structured as the CC rules. |
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DrJest We all agree the melee rules are broken Feb 14 2005, 04:48 PM
James McMurray Advanced melee should include maneuvers that anyon... Feb 14 2005, 04:59 PM Nikoli Well, that's the inherent flaw to an abstract ... Feb 14 2005, 05:12 PM James McMurray That's the way it works now, or close to it (m... Feb 14 2005, 05:23 PM BitBasher I already did something about it. My group made ou... Feb 14 2005, 05:41 PM The Question Man Convert it to Use with Hero System and keep the se... Feb 14 2005, 05:50 PM Wounded Ronin Well one problem is that we all want different thi... Feb 14 2005, 05:55 PM Kagetenshi No we don't. The advanced melee rules are abou... Feb 14 2005, 05:58 PM mfb if you're more worried about making the advanc... Feb 14 2005, 06:05 PM GrinderTheTroll Broken? No, I don't think it's broken at a... Feb 14 2005, 06:07 PM BitBasher QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll) Broken? No, I don't th... Feb 14 2005, 06:48 PM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (BitBasher) QUOTE (GrinderTheTroll @ Fe... Feb 14 2005, 07:15 PM Jrayjoker One of the guys in my group loves the cinematic (h... Feb 14 2005, 07:17 PM Jrayjoker In other words, I like the abstraction that allows... Feb 14 2005, 07:18 PM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (Jrayjoker) One of the guys in my group love... Feb 14 2005, 07:19 PM Jrayjoker My guy is one level below black belt in Tae Kwan D... Feb 14 2005, 07:23 PM Fortune We most definitely do not all agree that the melee... Feb 14 2005, 07:40 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (Kagetenshi) No we don't. The advanced m... Feb 14 2005, 07:43 PM Critias We all agree the melee rules are broken?
Wow. I ... Feb 14 2005, 07:43 PM Nath I must say I'm surprised some people seemingly... Feb 14 2005, 07:50 PM Wounded Ronin http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=66... Feb 14 2005, 07:54 PM hahnsoo *shrugs* I just shoot the guy. My solution to peo... Feb 14 2005, 07:56 PM U_Fester QUOTE (Nath) I must say I'm surprised some peo... Feb 14 2005, 07:57 PM mfb the biggest problem i see with the rules is, they ... Feb 14 2005, 07:58 PM Fortune QUOTE (Nath) I must say I'm surprised some peo... Feb 14 2005, 08:15 PM Arethusa QUOTE (Nath) I must say I'm surprised some peo... Feb 14 2005, 08:18 PM Wounded Ronin QUOTE (hahnsoo) *shrugs* I just shoot the guy. My... Feb 14 2005, 08:25 PM mfb i dodge, disarm you, then break your neck. huzzah ... Feb 14 2005, 08:28 PM Nikoli And out of desparation with a scene at that. Feb 14 2005, 08:28 PM The White Dwarf Do not include everyone in your topid line. Not e... Feb 14 2005, 08:40 PM hahnsoo QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Feb 14... Feb 14 2005, 08:49 PM Crimsondude 2.0 QUOTE (Critias) We all agree the melee rules are b... Feb 14 2005, 08:52 PM SpeedFreak I actually don't have much problem with the un... Feb 14 2005, 09:35 PM Herald of Verjigorm re 1:
Shawn is not moving 3 times as fast as Bob u... Feb 14 2005, 09:41 PM James McMurray And it doesn't matter how much faster your rea... Feb 14 2005, 09:51 PM BitBasher QUOTE 1) I disagree that it is just as easy for so... Feb 14 2005, 09:55 PM SpeedFreak Basic Physics here people.
To get an object to mo... Feb 15 2005, 12:13 AM BitBasher QUOTE (SpeedFreak) Basic Physics here people.
To ... Feb 15 2005, 12:27 AM mfb QUOTE (James McMurray)For example, small amounts o... Feb 15 2005, 12:37 AM GrinderTheTroll QUOTE (SpeedFreak @ Feb 14 2005, 05:13 PM) Ba... Feb 15 2005, 12:39 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (SpeedFreak) Basic Physics here people.
To ... Feb 15 2005, 12:43 AM BitBasher QUOTE (mfb) QUOTE (James McMurray)For example, sma... Feb 15 2005, 12:45 AM Herald of Verjigorm QUOTE (kevyn668)If you really want to keep your ar... Feb 15 2005, 12:53 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (SpeedFreak) To do 3 things in 3 seconds Sha... Feb 15 2005, 12:59 AM Zeel De Mort Various points on this:
1. I don't think the... Feb 15 2005, 12:59 AM Kagetenshi Assuming Willpower and Intelligence of 3 each and ... Feb 15 2005, 01:08 AM Zeel De Mort Yep, all very true. The vampire, as we both state... Feb 15 2005, 01:18 AM Lindt Seriously, the basic melee combat rules arnt broke... Feb 15 2005, 01:19 AM Kagetenshi QUOTE (Zeel De Mort) Yep, all very true. The vamp... Feb 15 2005, 01:32 AM Zeel De Mort Well true. Three seconds isn't a long time, e... Feb 15 2005, 01:39 AM SpeedFreak QUOTE (Kagetenshi) Assuming Willpower and Intellig... Feb 15 2005, 02:02 AM Kagetenshi The Flash, in SR terms, would be using SR2 initiat... Feb 15 2005, 02:10 AM kevyn668 QUOTE (Herald of Verjigorm)QUOTE (kevyn668)If you ... Feb 15 2005, 02:54 AM Dawnshadow QUOTE (SpeedFreak) Actually, that is a very good e... Feb 15 2005, 03:51 AM FrostyNSO DS has a damn good point.
From my experience, bei... Feb 15 2005, 04:00 AM kevyn668 What if they both have an equal skill and one is f... Feb 15 2005, 04:03 AM Kagetenshi Then the faster one will go first, win ties in the... Feb 15 2005, 04:10 AM mfb indeed. the fast guy will act with equal economy o... Feb 15 2005, 04:11 AM kevyn668 Except in Shadowrun.
Where's that example of... Feb 15 2005, 04:23 AM Kagetenshi No, it's that way in Shadowrun as well. See my... Feb 15 2005, 04:25 AM kevyn668 I skipped the vampire talk.
edit: was that about ... Feb 15 2005, 04:29 AM Kagetenshi In a nutshell, it was a demonstration that a Quick... Feb 15 2005, 04:32 AM kevyn668 Gotcha. So, at some level, being faster does actua... Feb 15 2005, 04:35 AM Fortune QUOTE (Lindt) ... the advantage the faster guy has... Feb 15 2005, 10:54 AM GentlemanLoser What rational is used in the SR universe to explai... Feb 15 2005, 11:35 AM Cray74 QUOTE (DrJest) The usual caveat applies - construc... Feb 15 2005, 01:53 PM Tziluthi QUOTE (kevyn668) Except in Shadowrun.
Where... Feb 15 2005, 01:56 PM tisoz QUOTE (Wounded Ronin) QUOTE (hahnsoo @ Feb 14... Feb 15 2005, 02:07 PM Shockwave_IIc I always thought it a bit strange that people thin... Feb 15 2005, 02:18 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) Without speeding up thier m... Feb 15 2005, 03:14 PM Cult Classic I was surfing on ebay the other day and came acros... Feb 15 2005, 03:16 PM GentlemanLoser OK, I dug out my SR3 rule book and looked up the m... Feb 15 2005, 04:30 PM Kagetenshi QUOTE (GentlemanLoser) OK, I dug out my SR3 rule b... Feb 15 2005, 04:35 PM
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