 Is "Canon" a live-wire word?, Do you hate it as much as I do? |
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 Feb 17 2005, 12:29 AM
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But Light was relegated to a level 0 cantrip with a naff duration, So then we got the Dark Ages. |
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Feb 17 2005, 01:35 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
OT: This reminds of a bumper sticker I saw: Jesus saves... and takes half damage. |
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Feb 17 2005, 01:38 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I saw that one too... It was more hilarious because I saw it during a time when there is this periodic D & D/demonic material book burning that pops up once every few years. |
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Feb 17 2005, 01:47 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
they still have those? damn, i need to summon more demons to take over men's souls. when all of earth's population is controlled by spirit-beasts from the deepest levels of hell who obey my every command, we'll finally have some peace.
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Feb 17 2005, 05:04 AM
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To which I'm reminded of another bumper sticker: Lord, save me from your followers! |
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Feb 17 2005, 05:34 AM
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My point is that to many people canon being used in this way,is normal. People also use words and don't know the meaning. People also change the meanings of the words they use. |
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Feb 17 2005, 05:49 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,129 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 4,712 |
The goal here, is communication. But so that we're all speaking on the same level, you have to use the alternate definition of the word so that it makes sense. I for one, do not wish to substitute one word ("canon") for five ("an accepted principle or rule"). Creating lengthy sentences is more a sign of someone who is trying to show off how smart they are, than someone who is being concise in their word usage.
Maybe the answer is to require everyone to post in the true high tongue, L337 speak. ;) |
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Feb 17 2005, 05:49 AM
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ROTFLMFAO... Oh my Ghod I definitely need to get that printed on a bumper sticker so I can slap it onto my tool box... That just plain ROCKS... |
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Feb 17 2005, 06:17 AM
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bah, everyone knows jesus has evasion and takes no damage on a successful save.
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Feb 17 2005, 01:14 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 |
Another popular one along those lines, though too long for a bumpersticker is:
Jesus Saves, sidesteps around Judas, dribbles downcourt where he passes to John the Baptist who shoots and scores! |
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Feb 17 2005, 02:42 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I've seen a bumper sticker in Canada that read ...
"Jesus saves, but Gretsky scores on the rebound." |
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Feb 17 2005, 06:02 PM
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"Jesus Saves, the rest of you take full damage." Is another one I've seen.
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Feb 17 2005, 06:57 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
"Jesus saves! Everyone else has to listen variations on this goddamn joke forever."
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Feb 17 2005, 07:13 PM
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Feb 17 2005, 09:45 PM
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Plus its brother series of jokes, the ever popular "Jesus is coming..." Jesus is coming, look busy. Jesus is coming, hide your porn. And so on. |
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Feb 17 2005, 09:45 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Being a relatively articulate person, I use a lot of words that have many meanings or levels of meanings. I don't go around saying, "And you can take that as gospel," when I mean, "I firmly believe what I am saying is true, and so should you." But that doesn't mean I couldn't. I know what is intended, and I can tell if sacrilege or blasphemy is intended.
Canon was a word before it was applied to any scripture. As an articulate person you should be able to figure out that we are applying a real word with a valid definition in an appropriate way. That being said...... Warning, mildly pathetic attempt at humor coming.... And if you are a religious person who is made uncomfortable by the use of the word canon, what the heck are you doing playing RPGs? Don't you know you'll burn in Hell if you pick up a bag of dice? OK, attempt at humor done. |
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Feb 17 2005, 10:31 PM
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It's for winners Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067 |
:S
have i loged on to the god channel? noooooooooooooooooooooo torz x |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:06 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
Hey, we'll talk about everything else...
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Feb 17 2005, 11:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 881 Joined: 1-May 04 Member No.: 6,295 |
actually I think it was more so an RPer who was offended that he might be talking about religion, (other than shamanism).
no offense intended if you take some. and if you do I have to ask what you're doing on Dumpshock in the first place. |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:27 PM
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"Fuehrer" was also a perfectly acceptable title for a leader at one time. Now it's impossible to use it without linking yourself to one particular leader who bore the title. |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:29 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
And yet the word is still used in Germany.
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Feb 17 2005, 11:33 PM
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Not as a title. |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:40 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
"Canon" has been commonly been in use among sci-fi and fantasy circles for some time. While the headline groups tend to be among the Star Trek/Star Wars/Lord of the Rings axis, it generally just refers to the level of authenticity behind assertations, with religious connotations only implied due to the fanaticism of those social circles.
As stated before, words can change meaning over time (just think of the word "gay"). It is generally acceptable and even expected to refer to a body of literature that is an authoritative source as canon within the context of a particular social group's discussion. I'm afraid that the argument is simply over semantics and not actual practice. |
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Feb 17 2005, 11:44 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Yes, but it's a stupid argument over semantics.
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Feb 17 2005, 11:47 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Oh, I totally agree. Someone is trying to state an opinion that is simply not shared with the others. It doesn't invalidate the person's feelings about the subject, obviously, but I certainly don't share those feelings about a succinct and contextually accurate word. |
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