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Arethusa
post Feb 16 2005, 09:33 AM
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Goes with pretty much anything.
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post Feb 16 2005, 09:39 AM
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if you've ever read Wetworks--the first 11 issues, all else is heresy--they basically use this concept for every weapon, ever. i've always thought it'd be pretty badass to use in SR.
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post Feb 16 2005, 10:31 AM
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Yay for spray and pray!

Without any pictures of it firing or ejecting a link, though, I'm leaning towards "standard M1911 with a belt stuck up the handle".

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post Feb 16 2005, 01:08 PM
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While I do believe that all those pictures are just fake, a conversion kit turning M16-style rifles into belt-fed MGs actually exists! And it's even by Ares!!
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post Feb 16 2005, 01:15 PM
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One more vote for the "fake" side here... It takes a lot more mechanically to feed a belt than you could feasibly fit inside a 1911 - never mind a mechanism robust enought to pull a belt hanging veritcally without jamming.

Although the pics are sort of neat.
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post Feb 16 2005, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (mmu1)
It takes a lot more mechanically to feed a belt than you could feasibly fit inside a 1911 - never mind a mechanism robust enought to pull a belt hanging veritcally without jamming.

I agree, but I did note that the belts all seem relatively short- I'm guessing to keep the weight down. With the right recoil spring the 1911 might work, but my guess is you'd have misfires left and right, since your slide return would be even faster and the ammo feed slower...
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post Feb 16 2005, 04:53 PM
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What would happen to the belt links? Wouldn't it be a major modification to the 1911 to accomodate their ejection?
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post Feb 16 2005, 04:59 PM
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Just what I was thinking. A pistol's action is way to fast to accomodate it chambering a round and ejecting the links. I think I smell a fake here, but still looks tres cool.
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post Feb 16 2005, 06:10 PM
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I like the pic of the fat cop with his finger inside the trigger guard. Thats like the first thing they teach you not to do (who's they? I don't know... thats the second thing they teach you...)
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Anyway, now that you mention it, the links would seem to be a problem. Its hard to tell how the links are made from the photos, but I can't think of any way the breach would close with those things attached to the brass...
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post Feb 16 2005, 06:11 PM
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"they", in this case, are every single gun safetly class, ever. he is, indeed, being a retard.
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post Feb 16 2005, 06:43 PM
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Maybe he's actually intending to shoot the wall behind his desk?

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post Feb 16 2005, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Method @ Feb 16 2005, 02:10 PM)
I like the pic of the fat cop with his finger inside the trigger guard.  Thats like the first thing they teach you not to do (who's they?  I don't know...  thats the second thing they teach you...)
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Ronin is one of the best SR movies ever. It's even qouted on the back of Shadows of North America.

Clearly a fake. "Overseas problems" indeed :please:
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post Feb 16 2005, 06:51 PM
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...what the fuck is a shottist?
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post Feb 16 2005, 06:54 PM
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Someone who makes or is otherwise connected with shot?

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post Feb 16 2005, 08:32 PM
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Why don't you go to www.shottist.com for the definition on the front page?
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post Feb 16 2005, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Arethusa)
Why don't you go to www.shottist.com for the definition on the front page?

? Isn't that shootist? Like the John Wayne movie?
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post Feb 16 2005, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (mfb)
...what the fuck is a shottist?

Isn't it a 80 Ton Inner Sphere Mech?
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post Feb 16 2005, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (Shockwave_IIc)
QUOTE (mfb @ Feb 16 2005, 06:51 PM)
...what the fuck is a shottist?

Isn't it a 80 Ton Inner Sphere Mech?

damn, you beat me to it.
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post Feb 17 2005, 12:00 AM
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My gun bunny friend/player just pointed out that the ammo belt on the M-16 / AR-15 is going IN THE EJECTION PORT.... :eek:

I personally am ashamed that noone on DS caught this, and feel down right stupid myself... :silly:
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post Feb 17 2005, 12:15 AM
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Wait, I've got it - "o" and "i" are next to each other on the keyboard. It's a typo is all :D
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post Feb 17 2005, 12:34 AM
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Yeah. Fake as a rubber dog turd (but funny).

QUOTE (DrJest)
QUOTE (Arethusa @ Feb 16 2005, 03:32 PM)
Why don't you go to www.shottist.com for the definition on the front page?

? Isn't that shootist? Like the John Wayne movie?

QUOTE (Jeff Cooper @ http://www.dvc.org.uk/~johnny/jeff/jeff4_5.html)
I have been somewhat amused at the spate of indignation I have aroused by insisting that the proper word is "shottist" rather than "shootist". Several people have leafed through a series of dictionaries to tell me that I am wrong about this. Apparently it is a matter of English-English versus American-English. I have been presented on two occasions to audiences in Great Britain and in South Africa as a shottist, and I assume that a proper English language dictionary would support me in this. Our British cousins spell color with a "u" and refer to a fender as a wing. Other examples will occur to you. Personally I prefer shottist, but it appears that I cannot insist upon that.
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post Feb 17 2005, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Dictionary.com)
No entry found for shottist.

Did you mean shootist?


QUOTE (Dictionary.com)
1 entry found for shootist.
Main Entry:  shootist
Part of Speech:  noun
Definition:  a marksperson or gunfighter; a person who shoots a weapon
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post Feb 17 2005, 11:05 AM
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I realize this has nothing to do with SR, admins please be gentle. This thread will die out soon anyway unless someone redirects it to something interesting and pertinent, so no need to lock it.

None of the large dictionaries I can access recognize the word "shottist" -- this includes Merriam-Webster and other Webster-style dictionaries. A thorough corpus examination (ie. I Google'd it) revealed that the word is not actually used anywhere except by Jeff Cooper, the Shottist.Com site, and people referring to these two. The one and only dictionary/encyclopedia type site that recognizes the word is the MSN Encarta, which states that 'shottist' originated in South Africa in the mid-20th century as "a blend of 'shootist' and 'shot'" and describes someone who is "a good shot with a gun, often a participant in shooting contests".
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post Feb 17 2005, 03:30 PM
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Yeah, but you can't trust MSN!! That'd be like putting stock into Fuchi.
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post Feb 17 2005, 06:14 PM
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Fuchi was a great buy until the Big D died. Or rather, until his will was read.

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