Sentry Guns, No merc labor unions here... Options

[LinaInverse]

Honestly then, that would imply a level of knowledge of the place that says the whole plan was compromised (which case, I'm screwed anyway).

[Kagetenshi]

The obvious solution is to keep a heavily armored T-bird on hand should you have to make an overland escape.

And ninja. Lots of ninja.

~J

[LinaInverse]

Forgive my ignorance, but a T-bird? As in a helicopter? Or is it a land vehicle? No, really, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm not quite sure.

The honest truth is, given the Mafiosi SOP, I'm expecting a lot of brute-force, with little in the way of subtlety. If I were dealing with the Triads or the Yaks, I'd expect a bit more subtlety (though by no means are the strangers to brute-force either).

[Kagetenshi]

Thunderbird. Directed-thrust aircraft. High speed, high armor, what's fuel efficiency?

~J

[LinaInverse]

Well, one, no one on our runner team has Vector-thrust piloting skill. Just how much does this bad boy cost anyway? And two, how is this safer than my tunnel idea when I'm expecting that the Mafia is going to be coming with helicopter gunships?

Now to be fair, I'm hoping that those gunships won't be there when the escape occurs (hopefully they'll have been shot down by the dozen or so ATGMs we'll be firing) but one never knows. I'm not *against* the idea of a vehicle standing by; I'm just concerned that it might be destroyed by the firefight before we have to leave if it's not hidden away (and the farm isn't *that* large that I have any kind of "James Bond villain" setup going).

[Kagetenshi]

1) Several hundred thousand nuyen if not several million. I don't remember offhand.

2) It isn't. However, if your tunnel should be detected…

(No, not practical)

~J

[hahnsoo]

[Cynic project]

So how much do these autoguns cost? Both SMart and Dumb ones..

[mfb]

they're for security only. move along, non-citizen, shadowrunners have no need for such things.

seriously, though? buy a machine gun, buy some rating 2 drone parts, make a few weapon B/R and electronics (linking to devices) B/R rolls, voila.

[Nikoli]

Steel lynx's make good sec-drones, when coupled with autosoft and either clear-sight or the enhanced targeting one. comes standard with hellacious armor and a micro-turret. get 4 with LMG's, 2 with GL-12's and a spotter drone.

[Cynic project]

I was looking for a weapon that could be deployed out the back of a truck,and left to cover when the run goes fubar. Something that you could basically throw out of the back of the truck before running or to set up wile "camping" out in the woods. Not many bears go for your picnic basket if you have automatic weapons that do not sleep.

[LinaInverse]

Correct me if I'm wrong Nikoli, but those, while formidable, would require a Rigger to coordinate and fire. They can't accurately acquire targets and fire on their own, can they?

[mfb]

yes, they can. that's why they have pilot ratings. you don't need a rigger to run them in captain's chair mode. all you need is an RC deck.

[Nikoli]

yup, and with a .3 essence implantation, you can captains chair them with a small piece of cyber.

Add in the B-tac gear and anyone with a DNI-controlled receiver can order fire from the drones.

[Kagetenshi]

Key word is "accurately". They're going to suck pretty hard without significant modification.

~J

[Nikoli]

Get laser designators for your weapons, program the drones to fire at what you fire at, when you fire. They aquire what you paint as you target, they shoot where you paint.

[mfb]

naah. autosoft interpretation systems are pretty cheap, as i recall, and you only need one copy of the gunnery autosoft. i mean, they're not gonna be snipers, but 4 dice is unshabby for an automatic weapon with lots of RC.

[Nikoli]

add in IVIS and you have some decently intelligent drones

[mfb]

IVIS is awesome, but pricey.

[Nikoli]

I've been toying with a concept for an ex-military combat type:
Uses ares alpha with a laser designator top mounted

has the cyber remote deck for programming access

has the b-tac receiver connected to his comm system and datajack (with the feeds from the receiver piped into his vision)

3 lynx's providing force multiplication for heavy combat.

[Austere Emancipa...]

T-birds cost, at the very least, a few million. The high end ones are closer to 10 million. And they can all be shot down with a HMG or Sniper Rifle with AV ammunition or anything heavier.

I'm sure if you had a good rigger and some contacts to trick out a cheap t-bird for this use, it might be a good idea. Without the rigger, the contacts or the gear, it's probably not a good idea, like Kagetenshi himself said.

[mfb]

problem: you'll have to sit down somewhere and conk out for a few seconds every time you want to give your drones orders. personally, i wouldn't bother with the CRD; if your GM allows it, just make extensive use of preprogrammed orders, and communicate with the drones via headware radio. you may have to expand the drones' memory capacity to do so (house rule: use cyberdeck active memory prices, installing them with the "conncecting to devices" specialization of electronics b/r), since preprogrammed orders can be memory hogs.

[Kagetenshi]

You can keep the programs in the deck, can't you?

~J

[mfb]

i believe they have to be in the drone's memory to be used, though the drone can dl them from the deck.

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