 Cybermancy, And spirits of funness! |
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  Feb 24 2005, 09:11 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818  |
Now, this is what I was thinking. Since there is a huge astral quest and a possible de-Patterning involved with cybermancy, and they get karma hazing, is it not possible that they actually summon a horror into the :cyber:? You know, overlapping auras like you can do with channeling?
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Feb 24 2005, 09:37 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Probably not. Otherwise Slay (Horror) would kill a Cyberzombie right out.
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Feb 24 2005, 09:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
That kinda made me wonder. Does Slay (Spirit) work on flesh-form bugs?
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Feb 24 2005, 10:30 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Stick with the good ol' Slay Flesh Form spell. Zessler swears by it.
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Feb 24 2005, 10:37 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
So is that a yes or a no?
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Feb 24 2005, 11:05 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
No. God gave you the Spiritblast spell for a reason, Ghost darn it.
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Feb 24 2005, 11:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
But has anyone tried it? I doubt Slay (Horror) is in too many hermetic libraries out there. Hmm.... |
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Feb 24 2005, 11:33 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Once they start appearing (and actually being recognized as Horrors), it probably will be in many libraries.
Though around then FanPro may tell us we can't have such a spell. :P |
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Feb 25 2005, 12:27 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
Shedim Cyberzombie
With a high force ward around it. |
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Feb 25 2005, 12:32 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Well, didn't the Blood Elves mere a force 1 wood spirit with their auras? And you couldn't use Slay: Wood Spirit to kill them. They're a new being entirely, their auras totally altered.
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Feb 25 2005, 12:35 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
There was no Slay spell in ED. :P Granted, you could make one, but that's different. Plus, the Blood Elves merged with the Wood Elemental. A CZ would just be possessed by a Horror (as nobody in their right minds would ever merge a person and a Horror). |
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Feb 25 2005, 12:42 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Well, who has cybermancy? The Ordo Maximus and a bunch of pain in the ass elves. Sounds like people not in their right minds to start off with.
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Feb 25 2005, 12:46 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Erm.
Ordo Maximus, a few megacorps, and maybe one of the Tirs. The Tir rumor is just that -- a rumor. Not to mention the Tir Tairngire Princes (almost) all remember the Scourge. I don't think they'd want to allow anybody to be merging Horrors with anything except the end of a few powerful weapons. |
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Feb 25 2005, 01:07 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Heh. No ulk-man references? I'm shocked!
Seriously, there's no Slay Horror spell. Too many different varieties. Hell, a Slay Elf spell won't even cause a rash on an ork, and you think one spell will effect a Wormskull the same as a Dread Iota? You're right! It's called a powerball. |
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Feb 25 2005, 09:29 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
I could see Slay (Horror) spells coming into use on two levels (this is once the Second Scourge starts).
You'd get spells for the common Horror types - you know, the relatively low powered ones (I did say relatively :) ), since that's worth the effort. These would come in the usual spread of Force ratings. Then you'd get "one-shots", high Force Slay (Specific Horror) spells for going after specific, individual targets. Even so, remember: if someone asks you to field-test his Force 20 Slay Verjigorm spell - Just Say No! |
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Feb 25 2005, 10:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
This might be a bit off topic, but here goes.
My view on Cybermancy, I see no need for it whatsoever. A rigger can do the same thing, without any extra implants. With all they Cyberware available I'm willing to bet they can build an entire humanoid, Use a little bit of vat grown meat, skin, and cartilage and you can even get the thing to look like a rigger. And of course pack it with as many gadgets, tools, and weapons as you can and bingo. Six Million Nuyen Samurai, approximately same ammount of nuyen spent and the rigger still at the same essence level. Just make sure it has a Rigger Drone Control unit and a really secure transmission line. If however you still want cybermancy, not gonna stop ya. have fun. |
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Feb 25 2005, 02:40 PM
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Financial Adept Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682 |
The really interesting part of cybermancy isn't the cyborg power aspect(least to me), its the magical and morale implications.
Going against a cyborg or just out-right drone isn't nearly as "creepy" as a once whole warrior whos been almost completly dehumanized via obscure ritual magic |
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Feb 26 2005, 07:45 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
I can Imagine a GM wanting to do that to a Player's Character. I cannot immagine a Player wanting to do that to thier Character.
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Feb 26 2005, 07:54 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Yeah, the morale of the PCs in our group drastically drops when the cyberzombies start to show up... :D My last character actually got trashed enough (The GM asks "What's your willpower?" after you take an S and an M wound from two heavy pistol rounds, and you know you are toast... I got as close to HOGing, without actually doing it) and had enough cyber that I considered cybermancy for him as a way to develop the character. Sure, you're living on borrowed time and your character is GOING to die very very soon. But this was a character who has already taken a bullet to the head in the past (with an Amnesia 2 flaw to go along with it) and has had his personality overwritten by a backup personality engram (a la Incomplete Deprogramming, although this was before I knew about that flaw)... he was batshit crazy, and I wanted to make him even batshit crazier. The GM sadly vetoed my request, and I ended up retiring the character when it turned out he was going to spend the next 6 game months in the hospital. I think it would be fun to roleplay a cyberzombie, especially one that wasn't a combat monster; my character was actually the group's Face (which is a bit of a misnomer, since we had an average Charisma of 5 in the whole group... everyone was good at social skill tests), and I figured THAT wasn't going to last if he became a cyberzombie. Ah, dynamic characters who burn in a blaze of glory... so much fun to see them burn brightly. |
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Feb 26 2005, 08:12 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
Ah, so these are uber monstrosity creations to torment characters with?
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Feb 26 2005, 08:22 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Since you mentioned before that you only own 1st edition books, the required reading for Cybermancy would be Man and Machine (SR3) and Cybertechnology (SR2). Of the two, Cybertechnology is a bit more useful in terms of background information. There is a cyberzombie that is prominently featured in the Dragonheart trilogy.
Sadly, the only cyberzombies that PCs are likely to encounter are the scary combat monsters. I was hoping to change that perception a bit with my own character, but the idea got vetoed. Ah well... |
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Feb 26 2005, 08:36 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 28-January 05 From: Phoenix, Arizona Member No.: 7,030 |
I've got Man and Machine, and Cybertechnology. Although I was aware MandM was 3rd edition, wasn't aware the Cybertech was 2nd edition only. unfortunately At the parents for the weekend and using Mom's computer, so can't get to the Library to check.
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Feb 26 2005, 12:23 PM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Why not? It makes for interesting roleplaying -- playing somebody so separated from today's society that they can't even interact without harsh social penalties. |
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Feb 26 2005, 03:08 PM
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Financial Adept Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 76 Joined: 4-October 03 From: Western NY Member No.: 5,682 |
Maybe its just me..but everytime I think of cyberzombie personality, I reflect back to those old semi-cheesy robo-cop movies of the 80s(?).
Thats how I always pictured being a cyberzombie was like, like when hes spying on his former wife and kids...just sitting there watching them, but he has no idea why hes watching them other then some image in his head that he doesnt remember. They don't want anything to do with him because they consider the real him dead. I dunno...thats just only film example I can think of for the cyberzombie concept. |
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Mar 3 2005, 03:56 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
I remembered the other component. Lost in the details. I'm telling you, horrors have to be involved somewhere. Maybe that was part of Darke's plan as well...
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