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post Sep 11 2003, 07:58 PM
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Mystery Men, which stinks as a movie...

OK, that's it. Get out. Seriously.
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post Sep 11 2003, 10:21 PM
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Scamp, it was horrible, admit it! :wobble:

Anyway, as for actors with a Shadowrun feel, I must add Harrison Ford, in Blade Runner he was PERFECT.

And Sean Connery can make a real great retired Prime Runner.
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post Sep 11 2003, 10:56 PM
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Mystery Men rocked. Disparage it not!
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post Sep 12 2003, 02:18 AM
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Mystery men kicked (and still kicks) ass, I own it on DVD :D
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post Sep 12 2003, 12:19 PM
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Scamp, it was horrible, admit it!

The only thing I'll admit is that you're retarded. ;)

It's one of my all time favorite movies.
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post Sep 12 2003, 12:19 PM
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Actors for Shadowrun:

James Wood as "MISTER Johnson"
Denise Richards as "MISTER Johnsons Bunny"

Michael Ironside as "Grizzly old corp hitman / security boss"

Wesley Snipes as "Slightly mad Physical Adept"

Leonardo Di Caprio as "The badly mutilated victim"

Lisa Ryder as "The weapons expert"




Usefull movies:

Oceans Eleven (Cloony version) for the tricks
"Soylent Green" for basic athmosphere
"Rollerball" (both versions) for the "Bread and Circus" idea

Novels:

"The Killer game" is the base for Urban Brawl. Just add a sniper...



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post Sep 13 2003, 12:37 AM
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Yeah, I'm throwin' in my vote for Mystery Men too. That movie is way too cool to get bashed without any reason, especially since it's being referenced in regards to the best RPG in the world.. Shadowrun.

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post Sep 13 2003, 10:13 AM
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Robocop was also obviously equipped with an Invoked Memory Stimulator.
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post Sep 13 2003, 11:22 AM
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solidcobra: sure it could be one of those lone star guns but the barrelclimb (or lack of it) can be explained with recoil comps, hell he have cyberarms so whats stopping him from haveing some sort of buildtin gyro stabelizer? (execpt for the fact that in sr that will require visible counterweights that is, maybe he have a experemental one :silly: )

archbishop: damn right he have a invoked memory stimulator, he is a cyberzombie isnt he?
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post Oct 31 2003, 08:17 AM
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How could everyone leave out both "The Running Man" and "Total Recall?"

Not only do they feature our favorite governor (as prophesized by SR) but they both have quite a SR feel (Except for the Mars part, but that's ok...easily adapted to an orbital habitat or undersea arcology)

Robocop was not outfitted with an IMS, as those memories he was having were unexpected glitches in the system. They had intended to erase his memory completely. Also, if you remember the attempted rape from the first movie, you know that he most likely has SmartLink II
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post Oct 31 2003, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (Tziluthi)
Come to think of it, Solidcobra, if you want to find a piece of media that syncs with Shadowrun almost 100%, you might want to read Neuromancer, by William Gibson.

Just picked up my copy... I mean c'mon, the back's got mention of a street sam right on it... :P

Also, Gibson wrote the short story that inspired Johnny Nuemonic... and in Idoru he created a tale rather like Dodger and his love for an AI...
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post Oct 31 2003, 09:05 AM
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Neuromancer pretty much singlehandedly defined the cyberpunk genre.

It's an excellent book, and the other two in the trilogy (Mona Lisa Overdrive and Count Zero) are good as well, but not quite as good as Neuromancer.

Virtual Light is also pretty good, and I've always wanted to stat up a "Chunker" from that book into SR (Most likely it's a machine pistol that is limited to Gel rounds only and has some weird mechanic for the ricochet attack).

As for Johnny Mneumonic, not only did he write the short story, he actually wrote the screenplay for the movie...which is why we'll never see another William Gibson movie ever again.
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post Oct 31 2003, 09:19 AM
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post Oct 31 2003, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (Solidcobra)
QUOTE (hobgoblin @ Sep 10 2003, 07:43 PM)
robocop is a perfect example of a cyberzombie, and the gun he uses looks so mutch like a burst fire ares predator (why burst fire? listen)...

You sure it ain't a thunderbolt? it fires so fast that the muzzle hasn't had the time to climb after all...... just a thought..... (haven't found JACK of the stuff posted here, will soon turn to kazaa in despair)

I am with you. Thinking about Robocop's gun I immediatly thought about the Thunderbolt and its unique sound.
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post Oct 31 2003, 10:11 AM
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Okay - Shadowrun movies abound. Check lady Jestyr's site (I dont' have the address handy, but you can get there through the main Dumpshock page). It's got a great list.

For the lazy people among us: The Shadowrun Movies List (once) maintained by Lady Jestyr of Dumpshock and Bulldrek fame!
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post Oct 31 2003, 10:17 AM
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It's an excellent book, and the other two in the trilogy (Mona Lisa Overdrive and Count Zero) are good as well, but not quite as good as Neuromancer.

You are obviously not right in the head. ;)

Neuromancer was overdone. Gibson used that long, almost Tolkien-esque, descriptive prose left, right and center, to the point that it got annoying. In the last two books of the trilogy he dropped that considerably, and made the books ten times more enjoyable without losing the overal ambience of the setting.
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post Oct 31 2003, 02:18 PM
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The Crew from Aliens: Ressurection.
They were so Shadowrun it's creepy.
(PS I can't remember character names)
The wheelchair dude : Rigger/Mechanic
The Female pilot : Rigger
Black Dude with Dreads : Pistol Adept
Big Apish guy : Weapons Expert
Ripley : Athletics / Martial arts Adept (Bug spirit infused?)
The synthetic chick : Decker with internal cyberdeck, also Tech wiz
and I'm probably forgetting others but whatever you get my point
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post Oct 31 2003, 02:20 PM
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post Oct 31 2003, 02:30 PM
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Big Apish guy : Weapons Expert

That "Apish" guy is Ron Perlman, a highly under-rated actor. He played Dieter in Blade II, he played Jonher in Aliens: Ressurection, and he played alongside Linda Hamilton in the late-80s as Vincent in Beauty and the Beast, a television series.
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post Oct 31 2003, 02:32 PM
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Thank you! I couldn't remember his name for the life of me!
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post Oct 31 2003, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (DV8)
Neuromancer was overdone. Gibson used that long, almost Tolkien-esque, descriptive prose left, right and center, to the point that it got annoying. In the last two books of the trilogy he dropped that considerably, and made the books ten times more enjoyable without losing the overal ambience of the setting.

Disagree. I personally quite like Tolkienesque prose, but that's a personal preference; regardless, I found both sequels far less compelling. Gibson is a good writer, yes, but the only books he wrote that I would call truly great were Burning Chrome and Neuromancer.

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post Oct 31 2003, 03:05 PM
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If we're doing cyberpunk book references, then i feel i should point out Lucifer's Dragon.

Havn't got it around, unfortunaetly, so i can't tell you who wrote it, but it also fits very well, with chromed street amurai with (in one case) bright shiney blue skin, a SK as the defense network (Rapidly becoming AI, from the sound of it) and generally lots of other things. Also happens to have vampires, although i think in that book they're technological.

But anyway, the entire thing could happen just pre-awakening, or set somewhere metahumans aren't around much.
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post Oct 31 2003, 03:19 PM
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The Iron Dragon's Daughter, by Michael Swanwick. I command you all to read it.
Not quite cyberpunk, but a mix of technology and magic with racial issues (fragging dandelion eaters...). Oh, and dragons. Really effing cool ones.

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post Oct 31 2003, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE (Vanguard @ Oct 31 2003, 04:17 AM)
Also, if you remember the attempted rape from the first movie, you know that he most likely has SmartLink II

If you recall the "baby hostage" scene in Robocop 2, more evidence that it is a Smartlink II and not just a Smartlink I.
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post Oct 31 2003, 03:51 PM
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I always thought "The Fifth Element" caught a lot of the style of Shadowrun that other movies miss; namely the magical (a blend of hermetic and shamanic concepts really) and metahuman (alien) vibe. Korbin Dallas' apartment was atypical of the Sprawl in my mind, it featured an all-powerful megacorporation, coffin hotel-style plane cabins, and lots of cool stuff. It even had the Rocker archetype and showed how they could be an interesting and fun addition to a runner group to boot. :D

The only thing really wrong about it is that it is set up as a space movie (I could see Shadowrun catching up to it in about a hundred years or so, or at least getting pretty close), a lack of dragons and other non-human power players, and that the metahumans were actually aliens. Otherwise, I thought it captured the feel and style of Shadowrun quite nicely. At least regarding the way I like to protray the world. I hate that whole "grey and miserable" mood that infests cyberpunk.
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