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The Military and Shadowrun, ...who's served?

Have you served in your nation's military?
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dEdDaWg

Feb 28 2005, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE (tisoz)

What is the length of duty for those countries with a conscription? I saw 10 months for Germany and maybe 9 months...

It's 2-1/2 years in Singapore - one would go to the army, navy, airforce, police force or one of the civil defence groups (paramedics, firefighters, etc).

Derek View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:01 AM Post #52
Jacked In, Up & Out Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 232 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Oceanside, CA Member No.: 95	USMC, 15 years now. 12 years enlisted, signals intel type 3 years officer, intelligence officer And yes, there is a such thing as military intelligence. Been a lot of places, including Iraq, more than once, and going back again soon. Semper Fi Derek

The Grifter View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:20 AM Post #53
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918	Semper Fi, you salt dog you. LOL

KillaJ View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:18 AM Post #54
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 260 Joined: 20-March 04 From: That really good state. Yeah, you know the one... Member No.: 6,177	There should be a "Yes. But I'm out now and they will have to drag me kicking and screaming to get me back into uniform." option. Or was that implied...? ;) 19K. Wonder what it is about tanks that draws the SR crowd?

The Grifter View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:27 AM Post #55
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 478 Joined: 18-December 03 From: Louisville, KY Member No.: 5,918	Ah, if you've done time already you already know that is implied. And to put it it quite simply, something down at the heart of all men loves tanks. Giant Engines and giant guns in one package.

SirKodiak

Feb 28 2005, 07:15 AM

Post #56

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Wonder what it is about tanks that draws the SR crowd?

How could you not love something with such a high target number to soak the damage?

Paul

Feb 28 2005, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE (Derek)

USMC, 15 years now.

12 years enlisted, signals intel type
3 years officer, intelligence officer

And yes, there is a such thing as military intelligence.

Been a lot of places, including Iraq, more than once, and going back again soon.

Semper Fi
Derek

I didn't know you were an officer.

4 years USMC-0311 baby. ot myhonorable and missed it ever since.

toturi

Feb 28 2005, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE (dEdDaWg @ Feb 28 2005, 12:15 PM)

QUOTE (tisoz)

What is the length of duty for those countries with a conscription? I saw 10 months for Germany and maybe 9 months...

It's 2-1/2 years in Singapore - one would go to the army, navy, airforce, police force or one of the civil defence groups (paramedics, firefighters, etc).

It is only 2 years now. It was 2 1/2 years for those with Diploma/GCE A level or higher qualifications.

Damn pussies can't take another 1/2 yr of military life it seems.

Omer Joel

Feb 28 2005, 09:54 AM

Post #59

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QUOTE (tisoz @ Feb 28 2005, 02:07 AM)

What is the length of duty for those countries with a conscription? I saw 10 months for Germany and maybe 9 months...

3 years in today's Israel... Or about 2 years if you're a woman and you have a non-combative position (women in combative branches serve the full 3 years). Conscription is mandatory for both genders, too. Conscripts get 300-900 NIS (around 65-200 US$) per month, depending on branch of service and risk factor, as a "salary"/allowance, and usually aren't permitted to work during vacations, and this is one of the main issues among soldiers (especially in the current economical depression).

I wasn't conscripted due to medical issues (severe alergies, among other things); most of my friends were, or are about to.

FrostyNSO

Feb 28 2005, 10:20 AM

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Wow, lots of marines on the board. I prolly delivered a pizza to Derek when he was a young devil dog and I was still in high school. You spend any time at Pendelton?

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Never joined. My cousins and I are kind of the first generation in my family that no one has served. All of my uncles, Father, grand fathers, grand uncles, they were all in the military. After 9-11, I had mulled it over a loooong time. I talked to everyone in my fam that had been in the military or had been to war. The tough thing for me is that I had just gotten married a little more than a year before and had a great new job that payed what I wanted. That made it tough. That's why I give major props to anybody that makes the financial and family sacrifice to serve. Yeah, you put your life on the line for all of us, but it's your families that also sacrifice a bit as well. In the end I couldn't do that. My uncle, who got drafted into Vietnam, just told me this, "if Uncle Sam needs you, you best believe he'll come knockin." l
A side note, one of my players was a marine in Desert Storm, great guy. Started roleplaying in the military. So all you Kick Ass Defenders of Liberty, I hope you find a bit of enjoyment in the Blessed Game of Shadowrun.

I had this same struggle. My grandpa did 15 years in the Foreign Legion and my pop did 10 + 4 (same four as me ;) ). I wasn't sure what to do after high school and I had a great girlfriend of 2 years at the time. After looking into law enforcment and the Air Force, and talking to my dad about it, it became really clear that he wanted to see me follow in his footsteps. He told me: "Every man needs to cut ties once in his lifetime and do something truely extraordinary." Those words stuck with me for months until it was drivng me mad. So, after a particularly bad day at work, I took my final paycheck (that should explain it right there), said goodbye to my girl, and bought a one-way plane ticket (with layovers in Boston and New York, mind you) to Paris and signed up. Looking back, It was one of the best things i could've done for myself, and like any man (or woman) who serves, it is something special that nobody can ever take away from you. My only regret is leaving my girlfriend. She was absolutely amazing, and I never have heard from her again, let alone even heard news of what she's doing.

As for the tank thing: I think I've always preferred being out in the elements. Moving through natural surroundings, being a part of them. Even in an urban jungle. To have your hands and your tools right on you. To dominate your environment. To do something that needs to be done with your own blood and skill. It's just a great feeling.

But I gotta say, seeing a tank flatten a VW is just paradise!

PBTHHHHT

Feb 28 2005, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE (FrostyNSO)

Those words stuck with me for months until it was drivng me mad. So, after a particularly bad day at work, I took my final paycheck (that should explain it right there), said goodbye to my girl, and bought a one-way plane ticket (with layovers in Boston and New York, mind you) to Paris and signed up.

Wow, I'm very impressed with that. To not only just get up and join the military, but to fight for another country too. Did you already know french before joining the legion or did you have to learn it after you joined?

Sometimes after a bad day at work, I've always wondered about joining the military, but I'll wait till after I'm done with school and pass the bar exam. See if I can get into JAG first and foremost.

Grinder View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 12:19 PM Post #62
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	At germany we had to chose between one year of service in the army or one year social service. I chose the social year, as the whole drill style of the army never was sth. i wanted ;) Turned out to be the best choice i've ever made, as my current job is in the same place where i spend my social year. And i had a very good time with a lot of sex, drugs and rock'n'roll during that year (and since then). :D

MYST1C

Feb 28 2005, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE (Grinder)

At germany we had to chose between one year of service in the army or one year social service.

Today it's 9 months for military, 10 months for social service.

Military service can be voluntarily extended up to a total of 23 months. In that case you get higher pay but retain the conscript status - you can only be sent to missions in foreign countries if you want to, you don't have to pay taxes, get free train rides and various amenities in daily life (cheaper entrance to museums and other cultural events, etc.).

Grinder View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 01:17 PM Post #64
Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698	Its a while back since i've done my service ;)

hermit

Feb 28 2005, 01:55 PM

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See if I can get into JAG first and foremost.

Heh, I wonder if the combat part of their work is indeed as big as in that TV show ...

TheOneRonin View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 02:07 PM Post #66
Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,109 Joined: 16-October 03 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 5,729	US Army. 6 years as an 11M (dismount). Served from 1994 to 2000. Did every job from rifleman, SAW gunner, and Anti-Armor to team leader and platoon-bitch for our spoiled mounted guys. Unfortunately, Uncle Sam never saw fit to deploy me anywhere interesting. I spent all 6 @ Ft. Polk, LA. JRTC was a drag. Though I did manage to get in on one NTC rotation, which wasn't half bad. I ETSes with my five, and though I miss it sometimes, I'm glad I no longer have to sleep on the ground in the rain.

PBTHHHHT

Feb 28 2005, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE (hermit)

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See if I can get into JAG first and foremost.

Heh, I wonder if the combat part of their work is indeed as big as in that TV show ...

Hah. Don't get me started on that show. :please:

Derek

Feb 28 2005, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE (FrostyNSO)

Wow, lots of marines on the board. I prolly delivered a pizza to Derek when he was a young devil dog and I was still in high school. You spend any time at Pendelton?

Never was stationed there, which is ironic, since I am from so-cal. Thats the Corps for you...

Forgot to mention that I have been gaming since a long long time ago, and shadowrunning since it came out. Doesn't make me a better gamer though :)

Paul, being an officer doesn't make me a bad person! Heh.

Derek

Reaver

Feb 28 2005, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE (FrostyNSO)

Just curious as to how many vets we have on Dumpshock. If you are a vet, chime in and list your MOS as well as any deployments.
If you're signed up, or planning to, list what you will be doing or what you plan on doing.

I did 5 years in the Legion (3rd generation). Started out in infantry with the 3REI (jungle warfare unit) until being transferred the famous 2REP. I finished my 5 years there, picking up a host of certs and going to other schools while not deployed.

After that, I served in another French special operations unit outside the legion. Did 4 years there and then came home to the States.

Deployments (with the legion) include:

Republic of Congo (if they still call it that)
Belgrade
Mitrovica
Wadi Seidna
Les Andalouses

Chime In!

edit: And did you come into Shadowrun before, during, or after?

I played a tiny bit before in high school (like first edition or something), but when I got back some friends of mine got me hooked and I've never looked back.

I was U.S. Naval Reserve for 8 years.

Hospital Corpsman and Field Medic.

Garland View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 03:11 PM Post #70
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043	There needs to be a "No, but I'd sign up for 'The Big One.'" option.

psykotisk_overle... psykotisk_overlegen View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 03:13 PM Post #71
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 269 Joined: 8-November 04 Member No.: 6,817	Conscription time in Norway is a year, I think (ought to be sure now that I've been enlisted, but I'll get to know it soon enough anyway). It's mandatory if they want you, but it is possible to refuse on religious/moral grounds and take a year of social service instead.

U_Fester View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 03:34 PM Post #72
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 230 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 6,863	USN - CTT2 Persian Gulf War Vet(first time around) Somalia and other fun stuff :D

Pthgar View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 04:14 PM Post #73
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 619 Joined: 27-May 03 From: Detroit Member No.: 4,642	First, thanks to all the vets whove served. Graduating college in a few months. I plan to join the USMC, they'll have me. I'm going to have to get an age waiver.

Just Pete View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:17 PM Post #74
Target Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 582	U.S.Army, 11 years, Oct 87 - Oct 98. Changed MOS's 3 times without actually changing jobs - was a comm center operator the whole time. Served in the SACEUR's comm center in Belgium during the first gulf war. Got out as an E-5 after closing down most of the comm services on Ft. Ritchie right before it closed for good, after it became quite apparant that I would never make E-7, and probably not E-6, either, due to a busted up back, and simply not being part of the good 'ol boys network. Plus, they wanted me to go on recruiter duty. Not for me!

JTNLANGE View Member Profile	Feb 28 2005, 05:13 PM Post #75
Target Group: Members Posts: 97 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Caledonia,WI,UCAS Member No.: 885	U.S. Army Desert Storm-first time around Germany 2 years Heavy Construction Equipment The best 4 years of my life got out as a spc4 Joined right out of High school if i had to do all over again i wouldn't change a thing. :D Trevor

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