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post Mar 1 2005, 12:00 PM
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Yep. Elves are floofy and gay. And pretty lame to boot.

I mean, sure dwarves are small, and rediculous, but at the least they're good for comic relief.

Any of you U.G. Elitists have some good tales of general Stupid-Floofy-Genre-Killing-Elf-Smashing to share?

-RM
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:00 PM
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And trolls are stupid, orcs smell, dwarves are hairy and humans racist. Guess we all suck :P
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:28 PM
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No, the Sea Dragon's intelligent Merrow rule! :D
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post Mar 1 2005, 12:53 PM
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"Genre-killing." Heh. That's right. Elves have no place in a fantasy game.
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Fortune is going to have something to say on this topic, once he gets around to reading it.
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:14 PM
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Eh, most elves are fine. Tir Tairngire elves suck giant rubber balls though, and so do Aztalan and Japan and all the other morons who gang-raped the CFS one after another for twenty-five years now.

(Sorry; been reading through sourcebooks again. :P)
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:19 PM
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here, here elves are pap they think they are so special! and that they are the important one's...... orks may smell but we still kick ass and i would smack an elf any day!


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post Mar 1 2005, 01:14 PM
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Simple fact is Elves are just like anything else in any game, ever -- it all comes down to who's playing 'em, and how well that playing meshes with the rest of the campaign. Not all Elves are from one of the Tirs, and not all Tir-born kids grow up to act and dress like Legolas.

Sometimes an Elf pc is just a guy with pointy ears who can see in the dark, y'know? Either Rolemodel here's flaming, joking, or is just bothered by how someone in particular might play Elves, and how that doesn't match the feel and flavor of the rest of the group/game/campaign.

Saying "Elves are fruity and gay" makes about as much sense as a serious, modern-day, bigot saying "black people leech of the government," or something. Just another stereotype based wholly on negativity.

[Edit to add -- and for those interested in nothing but talking smack, I've got an Elf or two I'd gladly toss into a fight against a racist pc of another metatype, any day of the week.]
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:19 PM
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QUOTE (Critias)
Saying "Elves are fruity and gay" makes about as much sense as a serious, modern-day, bigot saying "black people leech of the government," or something. Just another stereotype based wholly on negativity.


:D

Point taken but they are still a pain in the ass! (Elves that is)


try putting up with the stick i get for playing an ork!


torz x 8)
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:32 PM
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Or trying to get his forum post count higher. Oh wait, I guess I'm getting my count higher, too, by contributing another worthless post. :D
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:33 PM
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No. Min-maxed albino cyclops wyrm shamans with a force 8 weapon focus and 10 in edged weapons suck. I don't mind othe rmetatypes at all :P
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (Rolemodel)
Yep. Elves are floofy and gay. And pretty lame to boot.

Uh huh! :please:
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Westiex)
I'm pretty sure that Fortune is going to have something to say on this topic, once he gets around to reading it.

And here I was thinking people didn't pay any attention. :)
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
[And here I was thinking people didn't pay any attention. :)


Allways looking for your input..........makes my day more interesting!


hehehe

torz x :oops:
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (Rolemodel)
Yep. Elves are floofy and gay. And pretty lame to boot.

I mean, sure dwarves are small, and rediculous, but at the least they're good for comic relief.

Any of you U.G. Elitists have some good tales of general Stupid-Floofy-Genre-Killing-Elf-Smashing to share?

-RM

I'd be interested to see your character sheet.
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post Mar 1 2005, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE (torzzzzz)
Allways looking for your input..........makes my day more interesting!

Thanks, but in this case, there really is no point in much more of a response to the original post than the one I gave. You know the saying ... 'Don't feed the Trolls!'
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE
try putting up with the stick i get for playing an ork!

Point taken!

Hehe.
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:46 PM
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:please:

At least Polaris backed his position up with some number-crunching, even if he did follow it up with some incorrect assertions.

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post Mar 1 2005, 02:55 PM
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Heh.

No, I was mostly kidding. I mean, sure, I -do- think elves are bouncy, floofy, and as a -broad, (personal opinion) generalization- fit better into your fantasy D&D game, as opposed to the gutterpunk grunge that I like (Used to notice more prevelently(sp?). YOTC, eh?) like to associate w/ Shadowrun.

But the thread, despite references to the unrelenting floofiness of woodland elves, was focused on U.G. on In Character daisystomps, rather than my opinion of the overly populated elven species.

So. Back on topic - Anyone got some good stomps to share?

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post Mar 1 2005, 02:51 PM
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Why would elves have any less place in this type of game than any of the other metahuman races? They all spring from fantasy, after all.
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post Mar 1 2005, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE (Rolemodel)
as a -broad, (personal opinion) generalization-

n/t
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:06 PM
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Can you explain why Elves are any less gritty than, say, Dwarves? Or Humans?

I think what we have here is a failure of imagination.

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post Mar 1 2005, 03:29 PM
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Take a look at Tarislar. Take a look at the Ancients, or even better the Princes of the Blood. Remember that for every hoity-toity fancy-schmancy Tir na nOg or Tir Tairngire, a 'normal' city has an elven ghetto.

They're plenty gritty. People just ignore that.

GM's often ignore them, or at least that aspect of them. When they want a gutter punk, they make him an ork. When they want a bum, they make him a human. When they want a scary gang, they use trolls. When they want a mage? When they want a smooth talker wearing his high Charisma score on the sleeve of his suit? Yeah, sure, then the Elves start rollin' in. It's a stereotype perpetuated even by the archetypical characters in the main SR3 book.

Elves can be just a gritty -- if not moreso, if you use their inhuman beauty and grace as a counterpoint to their horrid surroundings and living conditions and lifestyles -- as any other SR metatype. It's all up to the GM, and what aspects of their canon background he ignores and highlights.
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post Mar 1 2005, 03:36 PM
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Ugh. Y'want gritty, take a look at Jack Slater's mother-in-law. Gah. Trailer trash elf.
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post Mar 1 2005, 04:17 PM
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This is why I always play halflings : P (yeah, I'm using weredigo's rules).

I'm with whoever started this thread!! Down with the dandelion munchers!! Pointy eared freak good-for-nothings! "Ooooh help me, I can't eat meat because I'm a pansy! Ohhh... my pointed ears make me better at decking!" FEH! Kill 'em all.

Except the chicks, cause they're pretty hot.
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