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> Cyberlimb Remote Control Deck, NSRCG says it costs HOW much?
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post Mar 4 2005, 10:52 PM
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How much does it cost to stick a rigger RC deck into a cyber limb?

NSRCG lists it as :nuyen: 150,000, same as the Crainial Remote Deck. However, that seems excessive. I couldn't figure it out from the rules in M&M, so I decided to come here, home to the game lynch mob, and ask.
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post Mar 4 2005, 10:46 PM
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Hmm, well, I think implanting a device in a cyberarm is cost of item x4, then you have to DNI it (or does that include DNI?)
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post Mar 4 2005, 10:59 PM
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The cost of the item is indeed quadrupled (table on sr3.303). That doesn't include DNI, which is found at mm.38-39. DNI-adapting equipment adds either 50% or 150% to the cost of the item (no idea what entry on the table at mm.39 is supposed to mean, exactly). This makes the total cost of a basic, no-frills, DNI-connected Remote Control Deck in a basic-grade cyberlimb (Rating x 30,000/50,000) + 4,500 nuyen, 0.1 Essence, 5.25 ECU and -4 Concealability.

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post Mar 4 2005, 11:18 PM
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I believe you don't have to DNI something that's already designed with the concept in mind, so you wouldn't have to do that. You'd have to DNI something like a Pocket Secretary.

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post Mar 4 2005, 11:23 PM
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You can leave off the DNI if you want to connect the RCD externally through a datajack or a trode rig, but you need it for just about any piece of gear put into a cyberlimb that you want to control via a cyberlink without an external connection.
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:24 PM
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if you look in cybertechnology page 35,

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Cyberarm cyberdeck, Players may install standard or cranial cyberdecks in cyberarms. For standard decks, multiply the price of the of the selected deck by 4, increase the availability target number by 25% (round up), and double the base time for acquiring it. See page 38, shadowtech, for rules on installing a cranial cyberdeck in the arm. Increase the standard target number for building each component by + 2, and increase costs and base times per component by 20%

the only other thing i would say is if you are going to do this i would make sure you have extra armor on the arm.... the last thing you want is to loos it if you get shot. Also this was a house rule but you might be able to use it, the time taken to implant and the cost was less for one of our PC as he was a troll with big arms and hence more space to implant rhe cyberdeck!

Hope that helped!

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post Mar 4 2005, 11:35 PM
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That's for cyberdecks, not RCD. However, the same rules basically apply. For a regular RCD, you simply multiply the cost by 4. For cranial RCDs, you just get to implant it in your cyberarm, if you'd like... Not sure about the essence savings, there.
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:35 PM
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Cyberdecks are for decking (Matrix access), not for rigging. What Club's asking about are Remote Control Decks (sr3.306, additional info in R3) which are for remote controlling drone networks.
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:40 PM
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Thanks for the SR3 reference

Basic RC deck, rating 6 30,000


Built into cyberlimb, X4 cost 120,000
DNI port (A dedicated datajack) 2,500 .1E

Still a lot, but it makes sense now. Something built into a limb should be a bit cheaper%2
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:41 PM
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Sorry my bad, miss read what you were asking!

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post Mar 4 2005, 11:42 PM
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Thanks for the SR3 reference

Basic RC deck, rating 6 30,000


Built into cyberlimb, X4 cost 120,000
DNI port (A dedicated datajack) 2,500 .1E

Still a lot, but it makes sense now. Something built into a limb should be a bit cheaper, even it there isn't much of a m
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post Mar 4 2005, 11:57 PM
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Sorry about the double post. My 56k modem has the most %(*^&$ habit of kicking me off line for no apparent reason. It doesn't seem to like what I was tring to post, so I had to reconnect.
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post Mar 5 2005, 12:08 AM
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don't you just hate it when that happens....... can see why you want one on ya arm!! ;)


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post Mar 5 2005, 04:51 AM
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Don't forget that you have to make the deck DNI capable. A normal RC deck isn't so it would boost to 180,000 :nuyen: . To DNI a device you add 50% to its cost. Yum.
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post Mar 5 2005, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE (Necro Tech)
Don't forget that you have to make the deck DNI capable. A normal RC deck isn't so it would boost to 180,000 :nuyen: . To DNI a device you add 50% to its cost. Yum.

Decks are DNI compatable if they accept a datajack. So I don't think they need altered to run by DNI.
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post Mar 5 2005, 07:01 AM
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All a datajack does is allow you to receive info into your head. A skill juke box, a personal comm unit and a cyberdeck all can use a datajack but that doesn't mean you don't have to pay to have them made DNI.
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post Mar 5 2005, 07:43 AM
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Yeah, the only disadvantage that you would have with a non-DNI deck is that you have to plug it into your datajack, and even then, the RAS override is going to prevent you from moving around too much, so it's really just a style and comfort issue, at best.
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post Mar 5 2005, 09:15 AM
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A Pocket Secretary is not automatically DNI-capable, nor is a Comm-unit. Cyberdecks and RC decks come DNI-adaapted as standard, and would only require the dedicated datajack when implanted. They don't need to be DNI-adapted again.
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post Mar 5 2005, 09:19 AM
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So by comm-unit, does that include the whopping .75 essence headware radio?
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post Mar 5 2005, 09:31 AM
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No, I am refering to the non-implant version of the Personal Comm Unit, or even the non-implant Transceiver. Anything listed in canon as an implant (such as the headware radio) is already adapted for DNI.
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