Metamagic, which vodoo do you do? |
Metamagic, which vodoo do you do? |
Mar 12 2005, 07:00 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
K, so another thread got me thinking. What metamagics do you think are the most important? I made this a poll as well as a thread so people could spend as much or as little time answering. If I don't have your fav, my apologies. :-)
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Mar 12 2005, 07:06 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I gotta go with Centering on this one. For one spellcaster's metamagic technique, it does an awful lot -- granted, it requires a lot of karma to be good at, but the fact is you get a lot of options for one technique. You can play it more offensive (lower casting penalties, extra casting dice), you can play it defensively and sling spells all day long (extra Drain successes). It frees up Spell Pool and can definately help with whatever it is you want your spellcaster to be able to do.
That, and for the non-spellcasters, (read: Adepts), it's absolutely golden. Lower shooting TNs, extra successes in melee, extra dice for stealth/athletics, whatever it is you're after. Again, at the cost of quite a bit of karma (and, in the Adept's case, multiple levels of Centering), but it can be very nasty. All that said? Masking is a close second. This is a game about professional criminals or (at the very least) Robin Hood wannabe guys who still operate well outside the law. Stealth is important. Masking plays a part in that. |
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Mar 12 2005, 07:08 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 |
Centering... MIGHTY!
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Mar 12 2005, 07:54 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,587 Joined: 25-January 05 From: Berkeley, CA Member No.: 7,014 |
Dispelling is a metamagic? I thought anyone can do it now.
My vote is for Masking. Takes no additional Karma (unlike Anchoring, Centering, Quickening, and Divining), is useful when you first get it, and continues to be more powerful as you go along. I also enjoy Shielding, but that's a bit more limited. |
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Mar 12 2005, 07:56 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Centering is great because, as sad before, mulit-purpose. It can even reduce target numbers.
After that, I'd go with shielding. Works like spell defense dice, as well as incresing the target number. Combining the two (spell pool into shielding, centering to make up for the lack) is even better. |
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Mar 12 2005, 09:02 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Masking. Not having it is like constantly waring your guns above your clothes.
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Mar 12 2005, 09:40 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 78 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Frederiksberg, Denmark Member No.: 6,794 |
no contest... sheilding.
the protection it offers to you and your team... put 4-6 dice here and your team will not have to worry about emeny spellcasters. THAT is usefull. |
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Mar 12 2005, 09:46 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I believe dispelling was a meta in 2nd edition
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Mar 12 2005, 11:14 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,011 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Montréal, QC, Canada Member No.: 7,087 |
For a runner, I would say Masking should always be taken first. The amount of grief it avoids for a runner is just too great.
For a corp/military mage, probably centering or shielding. For a cop mage, sympathetic link. The TV serie "Without a trace" wouldn't be quite as entertaining if those FBI agents could track down missing little girls just on a photograph and a ritual, eh? |
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Mar 12 2005, 11:17 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
And if not , second.
To make up for not taking it before. |
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Mar 12 2005, 01:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
Shielding is the most important Meta-magic for my spellcasters as it greatly reduces the effectiveness of enemy Spellslingers. Masking is a nice second choice. Its so critical to be able to mask foci.
After that, I'm kind of fond of Invoking. Great Form Spirits are great options for a variety of situations. |
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Mar 12 2005, 02:16 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Wow. So Centering doesn't even make the cut, huh?
I guess I tend to focus more on spellcasting (quite a bit more) than on summoning, though. Most of my mage-types, now that I think about it, are aspected sorcerors (which might be why I tend to skip over several of the metamagics entirely)...a trend I've recently tried to reverse, but I can see how it might color my ranking of usefull metamagics, upon reflection. |
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Mar 12 2005, 02:25 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
L like Centering, but I hate waiting long enough to get enough karma to get the Centering to a decent level.
Now if I'm playing an Adept, it is usualy the first one I get. |
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Mar 12 2005, 03:50 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Centering-as i view it it shows you're better able to manipulate the mana, making your magic more effective.
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Mar 12 2005, 03:51 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
double post
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Mar 12 2005, 05:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 152 Joined: 24-October 04 Member No.: 6,785 |
Symbolic Linking is definitely got potential for abuse. I'm amazed you don't hear more "So, my magician found this picture. . ." stories on the boards.
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Mar 12 2005, 05:49 PM
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Decker on the Threshold Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,922 Joined: 14-March 04 Member No.: 6,156 |
LOL.
Alternatively, is symbolic linking only for regular photographs, or do they apply to digital pictures too? Specifically I'm thinking high-res Sensor output, eyecameras, and other digital pictures. Where is that metamagic from, anyway? |
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Mar 12 2005, 07:06 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 25-February 05 Member No.: 7,119 |
I have centering for the sheer versatility, and the next I get will be divining for character reasons (I am the true karma black hole!). Masking and shielding are best for pure utility though.
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Mar 12 2005, 07:11 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Cleansing. It is the precursor to Spell Matrices, and is the primary hope for restoring our polluted manasphere.
~J |
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Mar 12 2005, 08:24 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
I almost always get centering first, followed by masking. Sometimes I take masking first. But since I mostly play shamans, masking can sometimes be a bit moot, since anyone with eyes or a nose can usually pick up on it. :-) Well, I take that back. My cat shaman got masking first. It was hard to tell she was a shaman.
My current shaman smells of kerosine, though. :-) |
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Mar 12 2005, 08:37 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 33 Joined: 12-January 05 From: New Hampshire Member No.: 6,969 |
Masking, Masking, Masking. Always the first I take, always the most important to me. Nothing as advantageous as being able to (if not totally), at least conceal yourself for the most part. It gets especially juicy when you can start concealing foci with it. I'll usually take Cleansing second, as I do like not leaving much of a trace of me behind. Used in a group setting, espeically if you're initiating in a group, complimentary and specialized metamagics when you start getting up past 2nd and 3rd-grade initiates I've found to be particularly useful. The group I'm referencing to has both an established and specialized defender, and someone designed to clean up after everyone.
Course, things do go wrong, usually all the time. :spin: |
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Mar 13 2005, 12:15 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,032 Joined: 6-August 04 Member No.: 6,543 |
I think I go with Invoking, great things for the Voodoo types.
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Mar 13 2005, 12:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 |
I must say Masking has been most usefull for my charcater .
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Mar 13 2005, 12:37 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I really depends on the type of shaman or mage or even adept you play. But for all round plain vanilla usefulness, it is Centering. Consider that even(especially) adepts get a massive boost from Centering.
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Mar 13 2005, 02:41 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Masking, Centring and Shielding are the holy trinity for me most of the time. Which order though as much depends on the character as anything else.
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