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post Mar 13 2005, 05:34 AM
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Now in the SR universe, everyone pretty much knows the well-to-do deckers, because their names are plastered all over the books. You get a few sammy's sowing up to like Argent. BUt everyone of course knows Cpt. Chaos, Link, Grid Reaper, etc.

What about mages? Who are the heavy-duty mojo men of SR?
There are a few that show up pretty regularly. Talon of course, Magister and silicon mage are all over the source books (although actually ability is never really gone over, to my knowledge at least). There's also the made on Skater's team (Cullen Trey right?). But other than the dragons and the IE's, who else are the big time magic players.

I suppose you can throw in Rosalyn Hernandez of the IoND.Doc Raven? Would Wolf count? He's an adept right? Just trying to use street reputation for NPC's a bit more, and I'm trying to think of who the 'Fastjack's" of the magical world would be.

Got any more names to drop?
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:50 AM
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Sally Tsung.

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post Mar 13 2005, 05:47 AM
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More specific? as in "who is Sally Tsung" what's her story?

I also know the head of Yamatetsu Seattle Jacques Bernard is a mage, but nothing to special form what I understand.
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:56 AM
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Sally Tsung was in the first several novels. She worked with Twist, Doger, Niko, and their chummers.

There was also a chicka named Aroura, she bought it in a fight with a blood mage. However, she was one hell of a mage. She was involved in the first major raid of the UB (see UB book).

Magistar, Talon, and a few others come to mind.

Danial Coleman (Howling Coyote) was supposed to have died in the early 2050s (see first few novels) However, given his level of power and totum...I wouldn't rule out the possibility of his death being false.

Hernandez and her cronies at the illuminates of the new dawn.

Just general curiosity, or are you planning something? :-)
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:13 AM
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Twist would probably be up there as well as far as being well known. Neko not as much (he's a bit player, IMO)

Hmm Professor Laverty in Tir Tangire as well. He's part of the ruling council, I believe.
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:07 AM
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I know Twist shows up in Dunkie's Will. Don't really know anything beyonf that about her (?right?) though.
Is Laverty one of the IE's? I always forget . there's too damn many.
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:11 AM
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Twist is Samuel Verner, from the first three SR books.

I believe Laverty is an IE, yes. AH might correct me, tho.
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:23 AM
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AH has him listed as an IE, and it's painfully obvious from parts of the Secrets of Power Trilogy.

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post Mar 13 2005, 06:18 AM
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Well, I kinda figured, but I wanted to hedge my bets. Thanks for confirming, K.
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:20 AM
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Twist's magic was totally burned out in his version of the GGD.

Katherine Hart is an elf mage associated with Tir Na nOg from the first trilogy.
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post Mar 13 2005, 06:33 AM
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Man of Many Names comes to mind.

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post Mar 13 2005, 07:08 AM
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QUOTE (JaronK @ Mar 13 2005, 01:33 AM)
Man of Many Names comes to mind.

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Forgot about him He does pop up a lot.

I've actually only gotten through the 1st secrets of power book. Scouring used book stores for the others. That's the one where Haesslich bites it, right?

I wonder why they never really bring up the "prominent" mages. Haven't seen "prime runners" yet though. Any covered under there?

On a slightly off subject, for the thread of shamans vs mages, the whole debate on acting like your totem:
Wolf from Wolf and Raven. They don't exactly see eye to eye. One good example of a well known mage (doc Raven)
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post Mar 13 2005, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0)
Haven't seen "prime runners" yet though. Any covered under there?


Prime Runners covers Karl Heinz Zessler (an elf of old age, dont know if he is immortal, but he probably is).

He shows up in one (or more) novel(s), but forgot which one(s).
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post Mar 13 2005, 10:11 AM
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There's "the Guide", who may or may not be a shaman (or a free spirit, for that matter). Ghostwalker's voice, Nicholas Whitebird (?) also is a shaman.
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post Mar 13 2005, 11:19 AM
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"The Guide" is pretty solidly an aspect of the Spirit of Denver. I'm willing to lay down *at least* a dollar on that without looking it up.
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post Mar 13 2005, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (Large Mike)
"The Guide" is pretty solidly an aspect of the Spirit of Denver. I'm willing to lay down *at least* a dollar on that without looking it up.

He's one of three things, according to the Denver sourcebook:
Option A: A Raven shaman by the name of Davis Dry Valley.
Option B: One of the fragments of the Spirit of Denver
Option C: A Toxic Dog shaman by the name of Davis Dry Valley.

There is nowhere mentioned (that I know of, at least) which solidly links him to any of the three, although the incident with Nicholas Whitebird and Ghostwalker probably puts him in the realm of either Option A or Option B. Since one of Ghostwalker's goals is the restoration of the Spirit of Denver, I find it odd that he wouldn't have brought the Guide into the fold if he was one of the fragments. Possible, but odd...it's not stated whether or not Ghostwalker even knows how to do this, so he could just be letting the Guide go about his own way until it is possible.
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post Mar 13 2005, 12:22 PM
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C! C! C!

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post Mar 13 2005, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (Rock-Steady)
QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Mar 13 2005, 07:08 AM)
Haven't seen "prime runners" yet though. Any covered under there?


Prime Runners covers Karl Heinz Zessler (an elf of old age, dont know if he is immortal, but he probably is).

He shows up in one (or more) novel(s), but forgot which one(s).

He shows up in Sargent & Gascgoine's "Black Madonna."

And since I'm on the subject of those books (which I really like) there's Serrin Shamandar who, despite the name, is an Elven Hermetic Mage, whose parents used to work for Renraku and were killed, he's got a gummy leg and a fit young South African girlfriend called Kristen and size 11 feet....... yadda yadda yadda...
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post Mar 13 2005, 01:03 PM
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AFAIK, it is mentioned in YotC (or some other book released since Denver) that 'The Guide' is as Large Mike says, an aspect of the Spirit of Denver.
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post Mar 13 2005, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)
AFAIK, it is mentioned in YotC (or some other book released since Denver) that 'The Guide' is as Large Mike says, an aspect of the Spirit of Denver.

I've checked in both YotC and Dragons of the Sixth World, and neither are conclusive.
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post Mar 13 2005, 01:56 PM
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Cullen Trey
Talon
Harlequin
Aina
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post Mar 13 2005, 04:58 PM
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Aina and Harlequin are both Immortal Elves.

For other mojo heavy characters I'd add Mary Cat Dancing.
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:10 PM
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Moonfeather from the novel Shadowboxer seemed pretty powerful. She's one of the few magic user I can think of who demonstrated the invoking metamagic in a novel.

BTW : that novel was a chaotic mess. I bet that was a few gaming sessions put together into novel form. That would explain the collossal amount of threads left dangling and of weird story twists. As a gaming session, it must have been memorable. As a novel, well it is memorable but not for the same reasons.
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE (Fortune)

Katherine Hart is an elf mage associated with Tir Na nOg from the first trilogy.

Hart was an american doing work in TNN. She is Twist's main love interest. she was very mercinary but he brought out a more compassionate side of her.
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post Mar 13 2005, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (DocMortand)
Hmm Professor Laverty in Tir Tangire as well. He's part of the ruling council, I believe.

I thought he "left" the ruling council, whether voluntarily or no is up for grabs but that makes a good protagonist for any plot.
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