 The Seattle Chainsaw Massacre, Troll+Chainsaw=worried Gm |
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 Mar 15 2005, 03:46 AM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 9-December 03 Member No.: 5,888  |
Ok so I have this PC who decides to make a troll who happens to use a chainsaw. alright thats cool, wait whats this? A chainsaw goes off Str, leatherface has a 14str umm chainsaw is str+2S + Troll str14 = 14dice doing 16s. Is this right, can this be true. I know I can houserule this or come up with a skill like gas powered melee weapons. I just want to know If the errata is right and If anyone else on this board has had the privelage of dealing with such monstosities.
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Mar 15 2005, 03:50 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
I don't have a book infront of me but it seems reasonable.
He's a Troll. With a chainsaw. The damage would be serious (no pun intended). Just wait until your boy realizes he can Dikote™ the saw teeth. :) |
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Mar 15 2005, 03:44 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 71 Joined: 2-February 05 From: Greensboro, NC Member No.: 7,046 |
do you have any idea how far away a chainsaw can be heard? not to mention it's melee only...
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Mar 15 2005, 03:45 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Wouldn't chain saw use a skill? Wouldn't it either be edged weapons (Page 11 on the Canon Companion) or a specialized weapon skill? So his attack roll would be limited to what he spends on the skill (So if it is a strength based skill possiblely what? 14 or so? Which are deficiencies elsewhere right?) and then yes damage could , which is on page 11 of the Canon Companion, could be 16S or so.
Of course who would eb stupid enough to let a Troll with a chainsaw even start it, or near them if it was started. (Not like their quiet or anything.) |
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Mar 15 2005, 03:45 AM
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Beetle Eater Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Not exaclty something one can use when stealth is needed. And let's not even discuss the mess, but otherwise: it could be worse. I've seen bone laced and muscle replaced tolls, or dikoted dual spurs. Nasty and much more... portable.
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Mar 15 2005, 03:55 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
Yes, he's a troll, with a troll sized chainsaw. That's some pretty dangerous stuff. Why waste your time, and piss off the player by houseruling anything? He's going to be dangerous with that thing only in melee, and close quarters. It's also a pretty poor weapon to use when you need to keep things stealthy.
One long corridor, and a handful of guards with heavy weapons is going to completly ruin his day. |
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Mar 15 2005, 03:47 AM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
Have they mentioned dikote yet? I wouldn't be too worried about this though. Short of throwing the thing at opponents, it's still a melee weapon. Just remember the old quote about bringing a knife to a gunfight. Whilst trollo is charging the security guards they're racking the slides of their shotguns and blowing his kneecaps off.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:00 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Or worse machine guns or anthropods with chainsaws of their own.
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Mar 15 2005, 03:54 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
I think there is a "Chainsaw" skill in CC. Don't quote me on that.
For some reason, I see "Scarface" coming up if he captures any NPC's. |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:05 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Mmmmm....Screamers. |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:06 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Do you mean "Leatherface"? |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Scarface used a chainsaw once in the movie.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:05 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
a nicely mangled line from some movie: only trolls bring a chainsaw to a gunfight :P |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:07 AM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 |
The thought the chainsaw got used on Scarface's friend. Like, right in the beginning.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:09 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
His friend and him. They didn't finish with him.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:19 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
Crap. I forgot about that scene. Stupid meat brain.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:20 AM
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Resident Legionnaire Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 |
Yeah dude, it's time you went digital. |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:21 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
I'm just waiting for the technology.
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Mar 15 2005, 04:20 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
My inferior brain aside, go with what everyone else said. A troll with a chainsaw is pretty damn cool idea. Let him run with it. Hopefully the player will have enough sense to take the Shotgun skill and pack a sawed off Defiance.
Whatever you do, don't lay the smack down on him. He'll just come back with a stronger/more munchie verision. Oh, and welcome to the 'Shock. :) |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:57 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
I see his problem. He thinks Leatherface will get to roll 14 dice as a chainsaw skill.
CC, here's the thing. While using a chainsaw defaults to Strength, he doesn't get to use his strength as a skill without suffering significant penalties (+4 TN). He'd have to buy the Edged Weapons skill, which caps off at 6 for a starting character (7 if he specializes). That's not really that bad, considering. Hope that helps! |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:53 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Cain: No, he needs the Chainsaw skill, which is mentioned in CC.
In response to kevyn's shotgun remark... He needs to remember to randomly spout things like "This here... Is my BOOMSTICK!" and "Come get some." |
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Mar 15 2005, 04:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 351 Joined: 17-February 05 Member No.: 7,093 |
Chainsaw weapons use the chainsaw skill. Defaulting to strength is possible, giving that evil 14 dice to attack (+4 for defaulting, -2 for reach, +2 total). 1 opponent without reach, TN 6, 14 dice. ouch. I'd still get the skill if I were mr. Chainsaw-happy Troll. 6 Dice + Combat pool at a target number of 2 against 1 opponent without reach. Hell, even multiple opponents are gonna get shredded. Dikoting's even worse...
I Like it! |
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Mar 15 2005, 05:07 AM
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Grand Master of Run-Fu Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,840 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Tir Tairngire Member No.: 178 |
Oops. Well, point still stands. Leatherface isn't going to be rolling 14 dice without that +4 penalty unless he's an adept with extra tricks. |
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Mar 15 2005, 05:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 942 Joined: 13-May 04 Member No.: 6,323 |
And of course, if that troll had two dikoted cyber spurs, as well as Cyberimplant Combat 6 and Offhand Cyber Impact Combat 6, he'd be throwing 9 dice before combat pool and deal out 22S, so I don't see the problem with a chainsaw.
JaronK |
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Mar 15 2005, 05:21 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,751 Joined: 8-August 03 From: Neighbor of the Beast Member No.: 5,375 |
:rotfl: I can't believe I didn't think of that myself. Shame on me. |
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