 Intervals between Editions., Just a little history lesson. |
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 Mar 15 2005, 09:55 PM
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Neophyte Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364  |
First Edition: Released in 89, replaced in 92. Age at retirement: 3 years.
Second Edition: Released in 92, replaced in 98. Age at retirement: 6 years. Third Edition: Released in 98, due for replacement in 2005. Age at expected retirement: 7 years. |
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Mar 15 2005, 09:58 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
now see if you stay on track that means the progression should be 3 years 6 years and then 9 years or 2007 for 4th edition lol.
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Mar 15 2005, 10:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
How much did each move the time forward in-game?
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Mar 15 2005, 10:12 PM
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the Coke in the Machine Group: Retired Admins Posts: 128 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Cascadia Member No.: 46 |
Until 4th edition, the timeline is supposed to be 61 years in the future. This has somehow being nudged to 62 with the Ghostwalker book.
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Mar 15 2005, 10:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
1st Ed: 2050 -> 2nd Ed: 2053 -> 3rd ed: 2060 -> 4th Ed: 2070 |
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Mar 16 2005, 02:08 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
So first to second eds were basically year for year advancement, second to third eds was close, and now we are getting into a bit of a time warp...Its just a jump to the left...
Is the 5 year gap only in place to justify the rebuilding of the technological infrastructure? |
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Mar 16 2005, 02:19 PM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
That's he largest reason, AFAIK. I think it's also an oppurtunity to wrap up whatever other dangling plotlines there may be in fiction, and launch a whole slew of new ones.
It gives Rob and Co a chance to lay out the playing field to their liking, to let them prep for what they want to do in the future without the burden of years of accumulated plot cluttering things up, I guess. Bull |
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Mar 16 2005, 02:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
Not a bad way to bring in something that's a good bit different while still keeping the past history that the game world has.
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Mar 16 2005, 04:01 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
So where is the fiction going to be? Novels? Online at the FanPro site? In the Core book (I hope not)?
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Mar 16 2005, 08:28 PM
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Project Terminus: Soul Hunters Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 6-November 03 From: Casselberry, Florida U.S.A. Member No.: 5,798 |
N O V E L S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HEHE sorry but I miss the novels alot I liked them all. |
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Mar 16 2005, 08:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 130 Joined: 25-February 05 Member No.: 7,119 |
I'll second the request for more novels.
If the developers really want to attract new flocks of Shadowrun gamers and give the game a facelift, a few good novels would really lay the groundwork for the changes in the setting. When I was learning to play Shadowrun it was the good novels (in particular 2XS and Into the Shadows) that really made the setting seem an interesting place that I wanted to game in. |
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Mar 16 2005, 09:20 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
I second that. We need good quality novels.
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Mar 16 2005, 09:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Note Calonna Member No.: 241 |
I really enjoyed the novels too, even though many were not that well written. AS RPG novels, they weren't bad.
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Mar 16 2005, 10:47 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I think it's important to stress 'good quality'. We got a lot of really sucky ones.
Anyway, I was under the impression novels barely sold. |
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Mar 16 2005, 11:17 PM
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Avatar of Mediocrity Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 725 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle, WA (err, UCAS) Member No.: 277 |
Wasn't it the Insane Novelization Brigade that doomed TSR, way back in the day? I'd think people were a bit more leery of gamin' novels these days.
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Mar 16 2005, 11:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 858 Joined: 25-August 03 From: Braunschweig, North German League, Allied German States Member No.: 5,537 |
I don't know about the US, but here in Germany SR novels are actually published by two different companies: Heyne (part of the Randomhouse family) and Phoenix (a FanPro subdivision). For the last years there have been mostly original German releases as there are no new English books to translate, except the two recent "Kellan Colt" novels by Kenson. |
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Mar 16 2005, 11:31 PM
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The King In Yellow Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
Some of the old novels were at least decent (The Changeling being the jewel), but the newer ones were, ummm ... not really good. There is a market for such novels, though, at least in Germany. Don't know about the US. But novels are key, really - at the very least, a novel or maybe a series of novels (like a triology) covering SC/CE, to set the tone for the new edition.
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Mar 17 2005, 06:07 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 873 |
The English novel rights are currently being held by WizKids. While it is possible that FanPro might get permission to pursue novels to go along with SR4 (haven't heard anything about it either way), I wouldn't necessarily hold your breath.
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Mar 17 2005, 06:45 PM
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Guests |
Some day, somewhere in the future, someone is going to poke out your eyeballs for doing that. |
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Mar 17 2005, 08:24 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 |
IIRC the SR novels were not profitable in english. I have no idea why I remember reading that, but I don't think I pulled that fact out of the blue.
I would love to see a section on the FanPro website for transition times fiction. I like web based fiction.... |
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