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Mar 17 2005, 09:11 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
I never like the whole Immortal Nazi Elf thing, but dragons are kinda cool. They add a real big fantasy feeling to the cyberpunk-world of SR, so they should be kept in.
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Mar 17 2005, 09:12 PM
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The King In Yellow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,922 Joined: 26-February 05 From: JWD Member No.: 7,121 |
HAHAHAHAHA! Honestly, your character should start searching out old, forgotten US military bases then. For all I know, there are already prototypes in 2005 ... ;) That'd surely make for some fun runs, if your group pulls along. You don't have to tell them what your character is looking for, even ... just invoke some idea of a great treasure they can sell for heap of Japanese currency units. :D |
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Mar 17 2005, 09:14 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
And, to show we're all chummers here, I'll say that even as an ED GM, I'm not real fond of the obsidimen and don't miss them particularly in SR. Too weird and alien. Now t'skrang, on the other hand... :P |
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Mar 17 2005, 09:28 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 212 Joined: 30-November 04 Member No.: 6,858 |
Sprite Rites Now!
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Mar 17 2005, 09:33 PM
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Or the sonic gun from SOTA64...
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Mar 18 2005, 05:18 AM
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 18-March 05 Member No.: 7,186 |
I really think that the separation between ED and SR is good right now, and they should not be brought back together. When ED was first released everyone was smacked around the head with very broad "go buy Earthdawn to find out more about the magical history of the world" hints.
I read that FanPro (or Wizkids) now own ED again, but that LRGames still write the story etc. I noticed a reference to spell matrices in SOTA: 2064, but it was very light and seemed to be in there for the old school fans of both systems. |
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Mar 18 2005, 05:15 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
Since the mana cycle is supposed to take several thousand years, and the Sixth World is still pretty early on in it, I think it would be ill advised to get too heavy into ED metaplots. I'm hoping that the threat of Horror Shenanigans will be one of the things that kind of gets wrapped up in the intervening five years. Maybe Dunkelzahn gives them a good slap upside the head, and they all stay put in their home plane until another few centuries into the mana cycle.
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Mar 18 2005, 05:25 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I do hope that the crossover continues to evolve and strengthen without becoming overt.
~J |
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Mar 18 2005, 05:24 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i don't mind hints of it. i don't mind it showing up once in a while in the novels. but SR doesn't need another friggin' Harlequinn's Back.
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Mar 18 2005, 05:48 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Sorta agreed. I love Harlequin's Back, but it should be at least another half-decade before anything else like it happens.
~J |
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Mar 18 2005, 05:51 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
eh. i read through it, and i honestly don't see what's so great. a few interesting themes, but poorly-planned and muchly railroaded. it should have been a novel.
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Mar 18 2005, 06:23 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
If you have a good GM running it, and when they run it, you don't know that it's 'Harlequinn's Back,' it's a blast. When I got my hands on a copy and read through it, I was a bit disapointed.
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Mar 18 2005, 06:36 AM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Same with Harlequin [the first] though... actually same with most of the adventures.
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Mar 18 2005, 06:38 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
s'why i like the adventure tracks. so much easier to adapt. and, added bonus? fewer NPC stats to be mangled.
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Mar 18 2005, 06:57 AM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
Tracked can be good, agreed, better than modules for the most part. But at some point I'd rather have YotC style books... Hey, I just realized YotC is a location book (sure, temporal location, but still...).
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Mar 18 2005, 07:02 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i'm very pleased with the SotA books, and hope they become the backbone of the SR release schedule with SR4. i mean, nine times out of ten, there's something in there for everybody.
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Mar 18 2005, 07:23 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
*Hiss* SotA book (singular) is just fine. SotA books (plural) is one of the worst things I can imagine for the system. Instant power creep, just add water.
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Mar 18 2005, 07:35 AM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
possibly. however, if you expand the concept to include things like politics, gangs, locations, etcetera, it becomes less scary.
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Mar 18 2005, 07:35 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Admittedly two data points is one too few to start building trends from, but neither SotA:2063 nor SotA:2064 are the kinds of things that I would want repeated, much as I liked them (well, '63 at least. I haven't read most of '64 yet.).
~J |
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Mar 18 2005, 07:41 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Weird. They're two of my favorite books. A chapter for everyone, a chapter for no one in particular, at least as much world-view info and background as rules, all sorts of mini plot hooks and potentials for games, plenty of shadowtalk...what's not to love?
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Mar 18 2005, 07:56 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 16,898 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Power creep. Newer, more powerful gear and magic. All well and good in a single book, but in a recurring sourcebook, especially a yearly one?
~J |
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Mar 18 2005, 07:51 AM
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Freelance Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
You call it power creep, I call it the name of the book -- SotA. It's always been a part of Shadowrun, the scramble to keep up with the tech curve. The books just enforce that, in their way; if you want to have the latest toys, you want to have the latest toys. It takes something that's difficult to create IC and creates it OOC, for us. I kinda dig that, actually, as long as there's something for everyone (and I think there has been).
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Mar 18 2005, 03:11 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
I find it hard to believe that anyone wants plots ended once and for all. Myself, I would like to see plots renewed; changed up a bit, rather than just being tied off and abandoned. |
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Mar 18 2005, 04:00 PM
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
nope. i want the horror thing pretty much ended, all the way. tired of 'em.
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Mar 18 2005, 03:58 PM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 527 Joined: 30-January 04 Member No.: 6,043 |
Sorry, I like a little nihilistic, otherworldly evil from time to time. It appears we must agree to disagree.
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