 SR4 Rumor Control, From a PLaytester |
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 Mar 22 2005, 09:24 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024  |
Dikoted?
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Mar 22 2005, 11:00 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
Bull fooled me completely.
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Mar 22 2005, 11:02 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Paul, uh, Bull is joking, yo. :-)
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Mar 22 2005, 11:11 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,001 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Michigan Member No.: 1,514 |
I am so glad you said this, cause I almost started a whole topic against this! Damn you Bull!
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Mar 22 2005, 11:08 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
Although, hey, I really DO miss the shadowtalk bitching about things :)
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Mar 23 2005, 12:52 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's nothing. 666 of the books in the first printing run will have special maps within that lead the user to a hidden coupon allowing them to get in on the beta-test of the new Apple sexbots, Lesbian Ninja Edition. It's part of a cross-promotion.
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Mar 23 2005, 12:49 AM
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Aren't you the whitest man in North America? |
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Mar 23 2005, 01:18 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Shadowtalk was never really a feature of the core rule books. |
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Mar 23 2005, 08:01 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,133 Joined: 3-October 04 Member No.: 6,722 |
I was referring to
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Mar 23 2005, 08:16 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
You know, he's probably not (quite) entirely full of shit. Read carefully through what he's posted here, read carefully through what a few other game developers/playtesters have mentioned elsewhere (this is the second mention of a 2d6 attribute check from a supposed playtester, for instance)... there's probably a few kernels of truth hidden in the steaming pile of fertilizer Bull's dumped at our feet. We'll just have to wait 'till the books are out, to see how true.
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Mar 23 2005, 08:55 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Keep in mind that he may very well be compiling this while reading over threads in which people toss out random things like 2d6 attribute checks.
~J |
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Mar 23 2005, 09:28 AM
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Grumpy Old Ork Decker Group: Admin Posts: 3,794 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orwell, Ohio Member No.: 50 |
WHo, me? ;) :twirl: :rotate: :grinbig: So while I'm figuring out what else to "let slip", any of you have any questions about SR4 I can answer? ;) And if anyone asks about D20, I let Arnie Trachtenberg, ALD, loose on you with his big knife. Bull |
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Mar 23 2005, 09:47 AM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
I'm not saying he's preaching Gospel. I'm saying he might be telling us a pinch or two of truth here and there, in between the oh-so-clever and productive hah-hah attempts.
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Mar 23 2005, 12:17 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
:rotfl:
Bull, you're cool :) But i still want to see a line developer going mad ver a d20-discussion. drawing a knife... blood.... gore... :D Gotta need my pills. |
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Mar 23 2005, 01:05 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
if it can survive the prosess with my datas intact, yes please :silly: |
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Mar 23 2005, 01:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971 |
Is it true that FanPro will debut their revolutionary D21 at GenCon and tie it in with the SR4 release? :P [edit] Oh, and a pre-errata personal secretary does (STR-1)M stun damage when thrown by a troll. (STR)S if Dikoted. They aren't terribly aerodynamic, after all. |
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Mar 23 2005, 02:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 669 Joined: 25-May 03 Member No.: 4,634 |
It's going to be GURPS-style roll under, isn't it?
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Mar 23 2005, 02:47 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 3-December 03 From: Boston, Mass Member No.: 5,874 |
Why does D20 give you cancer......I'd be willing to bet that a large proportion of you started playing roleplaying games with the old Dungeons and Dragons. (D20's humble begining.) Hell I think it's what got most of us into gaming. Granted though it doesn't do well with the modern stuff but it has it's place.
Shadowrun D20 = bad idea, But then again they made a freaking buffy the vampire slayer D20....I'm so sick of D freaking 20 though......Next they'll have "Pervert the stroking" D20 game.... Pray upon hapless Teenage Anime Cat Girls at "AnyAnime Con 200x"..... I'll stop there. It was genius to make a system "open source" similar to the GNU license....That took balls and paid off in spaids. |
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Mar 23 2005, 03:55 PM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
I'm pretty sure a thrown personnal secretary scream and fights a lot if you try to throw her, possibly warranting a damage test to the thrower. If dikoted, she does (Str-3)L as you are now throwing a pile of goo. |
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Mar 23 2005, 03:57 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,664 Joined: 21-September 04 From: Arvada, CO Member No.: 6,686 |
Well, no, if dikoted, you're throwing a heavy, diamond coated pile of goo, which would be minimum str(m).
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Mar 23 2005, 04:19 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
Um, 1st (and even 2nd edition) AD&D has nothing to do with the crapfest of D20. That's kind of like saying that because you like prime steak, you have to like horse-hoof ground into hot dogs at the high-school cafeteria where you used to eat. I still like D&D, but I'm not a fan of the ruleset. |
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Mar 23 2005, 04:40 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Only (STR)M, unless you'd like to explain why a pocsec is an edged weapon. ~J |
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Mar 23 2005, 05:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 3-December 03 From: Boston, Mass Member No.: 5,874 |
No it's not that far off. There are distinct derivatives of the old AD&D system. Granted they've changed quite a few things but there still lots of simularities. Granted it's not the same but it's definately it's parent. The same way that romance languages have simularities to Latin. They're distinct entities but with simularities and useage. The OGL is different but you still have different saves, hit points ects. So it's similar. There's not the gap between D20 and Shadowrun or D20 and Gurps. Those systems are distinctively different. |
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Mar 23 2005, 06:00 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Incidentally, I'm going to disagree with you that the OGL took guts in the least. While it definitely took creativity to come up with, it was a pretty obvious slam-dunk; by taking away a huge part of the work of designing an RPG (making the basic rules system), you make your rules system the default. Tack this onto a situation where your rules system is already the default, and you have the Microsoft Office of the RPG industry. All of those OGL-based games have extremely low barriers of entry into their cash cow.
~J |
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Mar 23 2005, 06:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 392 Joined: 13-January 05 From: Forgot where his meat body was Member No.: 6,971 |
Five words: Stiletto heels and long nails All personal secretaries have those. ;) |
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